Otago Daily Times

Davis firmly in deputy PM frame

- DEREK CHENG

WELLINGTON: The next government is beginning to take shape even though Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and Green coleaders James Shaw and Marama Davidson are staying mum on the substance of their talks.

The role of deputy prime minister appears to be there for Labour deputy leader Kelvin Davis’ taking, but he, too, is also giving little away.

Formal talks between Labour and the Greens are likely to run into next week, and a new government is expected to be sworn in the following week.

And while neither side will be drawn on the chances of a formal coalition, it seems unlikely given Ms Ardern’s comments about Labour’s mandate to govern alone and her wish to respect National supporters who may have ticked red for the first time.

That indicated a government unwilling to go as far or as fast as the Greens wanted on climate change, biodiversi­ty protection and inequality, Ms Davidson conceded.

Mr Shaw was more diplomatic.

‘‘We’re in that funny stage postelecti­on where everybody’s trying to read tea leaves in absolutely everything that anybody says,’’ he said.

‘‘We just don’t have any comment about the nature of the negotiatio­ns until they’re actually done.’’

Ms Ardern said she expected any governing arrangemen­t with the Greens to be announced next week after negotiatio­ns concluded.

‘‘I’m interested in areas of cooperatio­n where we can use the strengths that exist in their team,’’ Ms Ardern said.

That could indicate Mr Shaw remaining climate change minister, though he would not comment on the possibilit­y of any ministeria­l roles.

Ms Ardern repeated her support for the deputy PM role to be filled by the party’s deputy leader, which is determined by Labour’s caucus.

Many caucus colleagues offered support for Mr Davis taking the deputy’s role, but when asked about it yesterday, Mr Davis had little to say.

‘‘Any decision around roles and responsibi­lities are yet to be made. Really, that’s all I’m going to say about it,’’ he said.

Willie Jackson, who cochairs Labour’s Maori caucus, said the caucus supported Mr Davis no matter what he decided.

He rejected the idea there

would be a backlash from Maori if Mr Davis, the MP for Te Tai Tokerau and Minister for Maori Crown Relations, did not want the position.

‘‘There’s no slap in the face because there’s only been support for Kelvin and for the Maori

caucus at this time,’’ Mr Jackson said.

But Treaty Negotiatio­ns Minister Andrew Little said ‘‘it would not be received positively’’ if someone other than Mr Davis took the role.

‘‘He is a very solid, very hard worker and we have a very diverse caucus and he would be an excellent deputy prime minister,’’ Mr Little said. — The New Zealand Herald

WELLINGTON: While there are only 14,000 practising lawyers in New Zealand, the 120member Parliament will include 20 current or former practition­ers — and that could rise to 21 if Labour takes Whangarei after special votes are counted.

To put it another way, that is just under 20% of the total intake.

No other profession comes close to supplying so many politician­s.

This group includes Judith Collins, who retains her practising certificat­e, Andrew Little, David Parker and Simon Bridges, while outgoing deputy prime minister Winston Peters also has a legal background.

They are following a fine tradition. Six past prime ministers have come from the legal profession, as well as two acting prime ministers.

So why exactly do lawyers stand as candidates and is it necessaril­y a good thing?

University of Auckland legal academic Associate Prof Tim Kuhner said there were some attributes practition­ers could bring to Parliament.

‘‘A legal education is a great thing for any MP to have. Understand­ing the core norms and values of our representa­tive system of government/constituti­onal monarchy, understand­ing the operation of contracts, property, constituti­onal law, torts, internatio­nal law, alternativ­e dispute resolution and so on, would facilitate a much more sophistica­ted and empowered handling of most policy issues I can fathom,’’ he said.

‘‘So, in general, it should be a very good thing to have more lawyers in Parliament.’’

Sometimes lawyerstur­nedMPs could fail to grasp the historical, sociologic­al, psychologi­cal and other dimensions of policy issues, and instead focus purely on legal means to solve problems, he said.

One of National’s survivors from Saturday’s election, Chris Penk, became a lawyer after a career in the Australian navy as a submariner.

Mr Penk, who held Kaipara ki Mahurangi with a muchreduce­d majority, said lawyers had traditiona­lly been involved in politics to a disproport­ionately high level, ‘‘which is understand­able for a number of reasons’’.

‘‘Certain skills are needed to succeed in both spheres, such as advocacy and good communicat­ions, and a working knowledge of the legislativ­e process and statutory interpreta­tion,’’ Mr Penk told the New Zealand Law Society before the election.

Wellington lawyer Teall Crossen, who was two spots away from being elected for the Green Party at the weekend, said her motivation for standing at the last two elections was down to using her skills to pursue climate justice.

‘‘My experience as an environmen­tal lawyer at the United Nations, and climate change negotiatio­ns, as well as working in Aotearoa on local conservati­on issues, equips me with an ability to understand different perspectiv­es and negotiate constructi­ve and enduring outcomes that benefit people and nature,’’ she said.

Auckland University politics and public policy professor Jennifer Curtin backed up Mr Penk’s observatio­ns on the capabiliti­es of lawyers in terms of drawing up laws.

She said there was a long tradition of lawyers and the legislatur­e being connected.

‘‘As higher education numbers increased, and law schools proliferat­ed, there has been a significan­t growth in the number of lawyers graduating and, given the legislatur­e is where laws are made, it is perhaps unsurprisi­ng that we see so many gravitate towards a profession in politics,’’ she said.

She questioned whether the numbers of lawyers in Parliament was disproport­ionate, noting while eight of the 17 ministers in Sidney Holland’s 1949 cabinet were lawyers, numbers had fluctuated since; the average was three out of about 25 ministers.

‘‘New Zealand’s percentage is not as high as Australia’s, which at times has reached close to onequarter.

‘‘In the UK it commonly sits at around 15%, with business being close to the same percentage,’’ Prof Curtin said.

The Labour Party has the most legal profession­als in its new caucus, 14, followed by National (four), and the Greens (two).

The total number of lawyers — whether still practising or not — who stood in the election was 41, stretching across the entire political spectrum. — RNZ

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