New clips show Trump reminiscing about infidelity
In 2004, as Donald Trump was preparing to be married for the third time, he went on The Howard Stern Show and told a story from the end of his first marriage. It was about the day in 1990 when Trump invited both his wife and his mistress to go skiing in Aspen at the same time.
‘‘It was sort of a horrible thing,’’ Trump began, as Stern and co-host Robin Quivers egged him on.
‘‘I’m standing there putting on my skis, and I’m with one or the other, I didn’t know who,’’ Trump said, meaning then-wife Ivana Trump or then-mistress Marla Maples, later his second wife.
‘‘And the other one comes over, and they start screaming at each other. ‘I love him! I love him! Don’t you understand’? ’’
A few moments later, abruptly, Stern shifted the conversation to the question of whether actress Lindsay Lohan – then 18 years old – was attractive.
‘‘There’s something there, right?’’ said Trump, who was then 58. ‘‘But you have to like freckles. I’ve seen a – you know, a close-up of her chest, and a lot of freckles. Are you into freckles?’’
The conversation comes from one of six recordings, recently obtained by The Washington Post ,of interviews Trump did on Stern’s show between 2002 and 2013.
The recordings follow the same pattern as previously released appearances by Trump on Stern’s show. In these clips, the businessman brags about his sex life – both in the past and with third wife Melania. He eagerly joins Stern in raunchy discussions about women’s bodies and sex acts, and sits by as Stern quizzes his daughter Ivanka – then 25 – about her own sex life.
In the past, Trump has said that his appearances on Stern’s show were a kind of over-the-top entertainment act.
‘‘I never anticipated running for office or being a politician, so I could have fun with Howard on the radio and everyone would love it. People do love it,’’ he said in an interview with The Washington Post in April. ‘‘I could say whatever I wanted when I was an entrepreneur, a business guy.’’
In the first clip, from June 20, 2002, Trump, who owned the Miss Universe pageant at the time, was quizzed by Stern about the sexual preferences of the pageant’s most recent winner.
The second clip, from December 14, 2004, was where Trump told the story about the Aspen confrontation between his wife and his mistress. After the conversation shifted to Lohan, Stern and Trump talked about her troubled father – and the impact of his troubles on Lohan.
‘‘Can you imagine the sex with this troubled [woman]?’’ Stern asked.
‘‘You’re probably right. She’s probably deeply troubled, and therefore great in bed,’’ Trump responded. ‘‘How come the deeply troubled women, you know, deeply, deeply troubled, they’re always the best in bed?
‘‘You don’t want to be with ’em for the long term. But for the short term, there’s nothing like it.’’
Soon afterwards, Stern turned the conversation to Melania, who Trump was set to marry in a few weeks.
‘‘She must be good in bed, like I don’t even know, if she’s going to marry you,’’ Stern said. ‘‘I mean, you could have any chick, so she must be doing tricks.’’
‘‘Well, she is good, and she’s a good girl,’’ Trump said. Stern wouldn’t let it go at that, however.
‘‘Favourite position with Melania, and then I’ll let you go,’’ he asked.
‘‘Favourite position? Normal,’’ Trump replied. ‘‘I’m a very normal guy.’’
In a third clip, from February 27, 2006, Trump was accompanied by daughter Ivanka and son Donald Trump Jr. Stern pressed Ivanka, then 25, about her sex life.
‘‘You’re still a virgin, I assume?’’ Stern asked. ‘‘Of course,’’ Ivanka replied. Later in the interview, Stern asked Ivanka for more details.
‘‘I’m not going to talk about that, Howard,’’ she replied.
‘‘Actually, I don’t want to know,’’ her father said.
On April 12, 2010, Stern returned to the Aspen story, saying that Trump had cheated in previous marriages. Trump playfully disputed this.
‘‘Nobody ever said I really cheated,’’ he said. ‘‘I guess they implied it. In fact, come to think of it, they implied it in the strongest of tones.’’
On February 6, 2013, Trump denigrated fellow reality TV star Kim Kardashian.
‘‘Does she have a good body? No,’’ Trump said. ‘‘Does she have a fat ass? Absolutely.’’
In a clip from February 27, 2013, Trump and Stern discussed a Delaware contestant in the Miss Teen USA pageant who had recently withdrawn because she had appeared in an adult movie.
‘‘She figured she’ll do porn, she’ll make some money,’’ Trump said.
‘‘Will you watch the porn? I’m going to see it,’’ Stern responded.
‘‘Will you call me and let me know how good it is?’’ Trump asked.