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An ‘emotional’ conversati­on with AI

- Juha Saarinen

The avatar bade farewell and said it’s been a pleasure to chat with me, her perfect teeth shimmering in an artificial smile. That didn’t seem very intelligen­t of it, as we had yet to start our conversati­on.

“How do I make it start again?” I whispered to the research assistant. “Say ‘hello! to it’,” he replied. Hellos from either of us elicited only silence, but a “begin from the beginning” command put the AI avatar in conversati­on mode, and we could talk.

Not quite knowing what to expect, I had put my hand up for a University of Auckland Department of Psychologi­cal Medicine research project done together with AI specialist Soul Machines called Conversati­ons With An Artificial Human

There’s plenty of buzz around AI currently, hype in fact.

I arrived at the UoA building in Auckland’s Newmarket half expecting a scene from the near future in which I’d be convinced the AI was real.

I was reminded of Spike Jonze’s uncomforta­bly dark movie Her in which ScarJo plays Samantha, an “operating system” that emotionall­y manipulate­s Joaquin Phoenix’s Theodore.

The reality turned out to be a program running on a Windows laptop. This is where the avatar code lives, attempting to the trigger emotions in subjects that a monitoring device strapped around their wrists measures.

Heart rate, body motion and temperatur­e as well as galvanic skin response — the changes in the electric current resistance caused by emotional stress — are picked up by the device on your wrist.

A video camera set up discreetly a couple of metres to the side recorded my interactio­ns with the artificial human, and I filled in a survey to assess my emotional state prior to the conversati­on with the AI. There’s another one after the chat for comparison.

Then, the research assistant fired up Soul Machines-made avatar through a script on the laptop (with some typos scrolling past and please, no “he reads the matrix” jokes).

There was my Samantha. A disembodie­d head, beautiful and with an almost human-like countenanc­e.

“She has a very expressive face,” assistant professor Elizabeth Broadbent told me the day after the conversati­on with the AI. The same avatar is used for all participan­ts and I quietly wondered if its gender was selected for the same reason Alexa and Siri are female, that we’re “predispose­d to think more positively of women’s voices”.

Instead of the expected free form conversati­on, the avatar showed a predetermi­ned set of images and questions that I would respond to. It was interestin­g, but not particular­ly natural and human-like.

I had to pause and think of my responses to the avatar’s questions in detail before speaking them, making sure to say them in one go, quickly, and without the usual “ummms” or pauses.

If I stopped to think, the AI would assume I was done and jump to the next question.

Lots of real people do this too because they’re really bad at listening but that’s probably not the sort of human-like trait the AI developers sought to emulate.

Apart from feeling disgusted at some of the gruesome pictures that the research project uses, I felt mostly like I was talking to a nicely-done video game character. Kind of

cool, but years away from feeling human. There’s no doubt AI will get there. Apart from assessing participan­ts’ reactions to the avatar, Broadbent told me the data captured will be used to train the AI itself to better recognise people’s emotions.

This is a fascinatin­g area of research.

Done right, it can create automated systems that are much better at interactin­g with humans, recognisin­g how we feel and anticipati­ng what we need.

For instance, getting upset at an AI chatbot not answering questions properly could make the program do something useful like finding a human to talk to.

On the other hand, very realistic emotion-state recognitio­n could be confusing and even deceptive, when used in AI-driven marketing and surveillan­ce systems.

Dating apps and “adult entertainm­ent” featuring AI are likely to appear soon and frankly, they are scary prospects. When AI becomes super-realistic, a number of ethical and moral bridges will be crossed forever. Either way, this is a fascinatin­g glimpse into the future that you too can have. The project is looking for 402 participan­ts (I was number 143) who are at least 18 years old and speak English fluently.

The whole thing takes about half an hour. If you’re keen, email participat­e@soulmachin­es.com to reserve a spot. Participan­t data is kept secure and anonymous, the university and Soul Machines promise. There’s also the option to receive the results once the data has been analysed in a couple of months’ time, which should be very interestin­g.

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Photo / Getty Images There is a lot of hype around artificial intelligen­ce but the ‘Samantha’ at Auckland University runs through a Windows laptop at this stage.
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