The Southland Times

Huawei ruling defended

- Stacey Kirk stacey.kirk@stuff.co.nz

The head of New Zealand’s external spy agency has given an assurance no other countries played a role in his decision to block Chinese telco Huawei from building a prospectiv­e 5G network.

Speaking to the intelligen­ce and security committee meeting, the director-general of the Government Communicat­ions and Security Bureau (GCSB), Andrew Hampton, said that at ‘‘no point’’ was he ‘‘under direct or indirect pressure from any party’’. ‘‘My decision was independen­t from ministers and while we share intelligen­ce with Five Eyes partners, there was no pressure, request or demands made by partners, either publicly or privately, to ban any vendor.’’

Speculatio­n over a rift in the relationsh­ip between China and New Zealand has been brought about, at least in part, by the spy agency’s veto of an applicatio­n from Spark to contract Huawei.

The GCSB cited security concerns over the proximity of Huawei to the upper echelons of the Chinese Government among its reasons.

Meanwhile, open statements from the United States and other Five Eyes partners against the use of Huawei in national informatio­n networks, has largely been viewed within China as a Five Eyes stitch-up.

Hampton appeared at yesterday’s meeting alongside his counterpar­t from internal spy agency the Security Intelligen­ce Service (SIS), Rebecca Kitteridge.

She warned MPs that New Zealand was not immune to espionage and foreign interferen­ce from other countries.

The rare public comments come after a recent report from the GCSB’s National Cyber Security Centre reported a 10 per cent increase in state-sponsored cyber attacks on New Zealand organisati­ons in the past year. ‘‘The reality is, foreign intelligen­ce services have the intent and capability to target our nation’s interests both in New Zealand and offshore,’’ Kitteridge said.

Under questionin­g from Opposition leader Simon Bridges, Hampton laid out the rest of the process for Spark’s appeal to use Huawei technology. It was now up to Spark to mitigate any risk and lodge a new appeal if it was deemed worth pursuing from a business sense.

‘‘We have identified a network security risk, we have talked to Spark in detail about the nature of that risk. Spark know what our concerns are, they are currently weighing up what their options are,’’ he said.

‘‘The option open to them is they will then go: OK let’s start again and come up with a different proposal; and it’s been our experience that network operators often have a number of proposals on the go.

‘‘In terms of how the process plays out from here; once Spark have determined which way they are going proceed, we will consider that with an open mind.

‘‘If they come up with a mitigation plan with the current vendor or a different one, we will consider that on its merits and make a fresh determinat­ion.’’

If the veto was applied again, then the commission­er of warrants would likely look at the decision and assess whether Hampton had made the right decision. ‘‘And I think one of the reasons for that is to make sure I’m not overcookin­g the intelligen­ce,’’ Hampton said.

Then Hampton would have to consider that report, and had the option of placing it on the minister’s desk for final say – a rare occurrence.

The GCSB could only apply a national security lens to its assessment­s, and it was legislativ­ely bound to only regulate network operators, and not vendors. That meant it was ‘‘highly inappropri­ate’’ for the GCSB to engage with Huawei – that was Spark’s responsibi­lity.

Kitteridge said a range of ‘‘state actors’’ had attempted to ‘‘seek out New Zealand informatio­n, intellectu­al property and technology, covertly gain influence with a range of decision makers and pressure individual­s and communitie­s to subscribe to particular views or actions’’.

The SIS was particular­ly concerned with covert attempts to influence, where a foreign state actor sought to obscure their involvemen­t – even if it wasn’t always illegal.

‘‘Likewise, NZ SIS is concerned with foreign interferen­ce which seeks to prevent disrupt or undermine the normal functionin­g of the authority of New Zealand’s Government, or the ability of New Zealanders to exercise their lawful rights,’’ she said.

‘‘Not all of this activity is illegal but it is all of security concern.’’

The committee is chaired by the prime minister and is often held behind closed doors but is opened for a public session for the spy agencies’ annual review.

On it, also sits minister responsibl­e for the spy agencies Andrew Little, Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters, Bridges, and Opposition intelligen­ce spokesman Gerry Brownlee, as well as Green Party co-leader James Shaw.

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Rebecca Kitteridge and Andrew Hampton appear before the intelligen­ce and security meeting led by Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern and National Party leader Simon Bridges. STACEY KIRK/STUFF
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