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Debating with the Don

Debate is raging over whether the right to free speech is being eroded in New Zealand — first by the aborted Lauren Southern and Stefan Molyneux event, then by Don Brash ’s Massey University ban. The former politician took on the Herald’s Simon Wilson to

- SIMON WILSON

Kia ora! As Post Office staff have been allowed to say since 1984. Nau mai, haere mai. Ko Simon Wilson to¯ku ingoa. Te¯na¯ koe, Don. A special te¯na¯ koe to you.

Let’s define some terms. “Political correctnes­s”, or “PC”, is a pejorative phrase that belittles the idea we should respect the diversity of values and upbringing­s in a society. Nobody self-identifies as politicall­y correct, because it’s only ever used as a sneer.

“Free speech” isn’t so easy. In Athens, in the cradle of democracy, parrhesia meant the licence to say whatever you like. But there was another word, isegoria, which meant the equal right of citizens to participat­e in public debate in the democratic assembly. Both translate as freedom of speech.

When our new friend, the Canadian narcissist Lauren Southern, says free speech, she means parrhesia. She is opposed to isegoria, because she is opposed to citizens, in general, having the rights we all want for ourselves.

But for those who would like a break from the abuse, the threats and oppression that come with unbridled parrhesia, there is isegoria. Ensuring everyone feels safe to speak.

In the United States free speech is protected by the First Amendment. You can be as vile as you like, and many people are. Clearly this is not a rule being bent out of shape by PC culture. It’s a rule that favours vile people.

That First Amendment also allows you to do your best to buy an election, by spending as much as you like being as vile as you like about the candidates you don’t like. Again, PC culture isn’t to blame. This is a rule that favours super-rich vile people.

In this country, though, let’s agree: when we’re talking free speech, we’re not talking vile, or dangerous, like shouting fire in a cinema. And we’re not talking defamatory. We proscribe all those without fearing an end to free speech.

But, while we’re on definition­s, why are the brave heroes of the freespeech campaign here so selective? Did you know some of them want RNZ to stop using te reo? That’s a complaint we have too much free speech and it’s because of PC culture. Isn’t it?

Free speech is serious. All over the world, people are dying for it. Uighurs in western China. Journalist­s in Russia and Chechnya and Syria. Kurds at the hands of ISIS, and Iraq, and Turkey. Gays in Kenya. Churchgoer­s in South Carolina. Ordinary people in so many countries: it’s a very long list and we’re not on it.

It’s outrageous to suggest that because of PC culture anyone here is being persecuted, as those people are persecuted, for speaking out. Outrageous and offensive.

WE ALL know what happened this week. The vice-chancellor at Massey University, Jan Thomas, in a fit of what I would call stupidity but the other side relishes calling PC gone mad, uninvited Don Brash from a speaking engagement.

Proof ? Game over? Not at all. Jan Thomas is an outlier. She’s been condemned for her decision by just about everybody, including the prime minister, whom many call a loyal PC trooper; even including the Massey University Students’ Associatio­n.

But isn’t she the exception that proves the rule? There will always be outliers. We don’t need to get in a moral panic about it.

I WANT to tell you a story about the use of free speech in this country.

In 2003, says Statistics NZ, the wealth of the median Pa¯keha¯ was $86,900. For the median Ma¯ori, it was $18,000. That’s a gap of almost made was wrecked. On the last data, which is for 2015, the median Pa¯keha¯ had $114,000 of net wealth. The median Ma¯ori had just $23,000. That is, in the 10 years after 2004, Pa¯keha¯ net wealth grew by $27,000 while Ma¯ori net wealth grew by only $4900. The gaps have got wider. I tell that story because of the evidence it brings to the topic at hand. Freedom of speech is not endangered in this country, and most certainly not by a politicall­y correct culture. The politician who used his free speech to mount that attack on the most impoverish­ed among is Don Brash. But you know what? He didn’t quite win that election. The vote was, among other things, a plebiscite on his view of race relations, and a majority of voters said no. Not because we’re oppressed by a PC culture, but because we’re better than that.

I TELL the story for another reason too. It points to motive.

The inequality between Pa¯keha¯ and Ma¯ori is the biggest issue facing this country. Not political correctnes­s. That’s a distractio­n, the bacon you throw to Homer Simpson.

The reason we’re even debating the issue at all is because of how upset some people get when the public discourse is organised to promote isegoria. The equal right of citizens to participat­e.

With isegoria, ideas bubble up about inequality and fairness and perhaps a bit of reorganisi­ng of the prevailing power relations. And we develop new ideas, too, about how to

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$69,000. That disparity showed up in every statistic you could imagine. Education, income, employment and home ownership: Pa¯keha¯ were twice as likely to own a house as Ma¯ori. Crime and punishment: half the prison population were Ma¯ori. And any number of health indices including diseases of poverty, mental health, suicide and life expectancy. Did you know Pa¯keha¯ live seven years longer than Ma¯ori?

Of course there is personal responsibi­lity. But there is also social responsibi­lity. We take – they, we, all of us who call ourselves an inclusive society – we take seven years off their lives.

The response of the Government was a series of social

programmes called Closing the Gaps. It

wasn’t revolution­ary. But Closing the

Gaps said such gross inequality was

unacceptab­le. It also said, implicitly,

that the indigenous

people of this country have been

victimised by the way we construct our society. The pain of colonisati­on is real.

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But in 2004 we did. Closing the Gaps was attacked by a political leader desperate for attention and happy to cast aside the social good it would do. In a speech in January that year he called the programmes racist – and in doing so he unleashed the dogs. Fear, hatred, confusion: the dogs of real racism.

His party climbed sharply in the polls and the Government fell sharply. Closing the Gaps was closed down, judged too politicall­y dangerous to pursue. Racial divisions flared. The progress we might have speak to each other so everyone can be heard.

Those who say society was better the way it used to be fear those changes are happening at their expense. Which might be true, but it doesn’t have to be.

A culture of inclusiven­ess asks for a little humility. It suggests: if you hold all the privileges, try not to lecture other people on what’s good for them.

Because this is not about the martyrdom of Don Brash. No one exercises their freedom to speak more than he does. But martyrdom is a narcissist’s fantasy.

And free speech, in social democracie­s, isn’t on the endangered list. The world is awash with it. We’ve never had so much talk. In the age of social media and the internet, you can’t limit it. That’s not entirely a good thing, but it’s the truth.

THE VALUES of our civilisati­on are not static. Values evolve. Values must evolve. We learned this from Othello, that tale of the corrosive impact of racism, religious bigotry and fear of women.

Shakespear­e’s lesson to all upstanding citizens is not to be so stupid as to fear the outsider.

I like to think the heart of our civilisati­on is the city, and British sociologis­t Richard Sennett has a definition for it. He calls cities “human settlement­s in which strangers are likely to meet”.

That’s where we’re at now. That’s our true spirit of the times, our zeitgeist, and our task is to make it work, for all of us.

Awful people will try to derail us. But they are also outliers. For most of us, the prospect of meeting strangers is difficult, of course, but also rewarding. We don’t have to like everybody, but we have to like that we get along. That we share. Working that out is what we’re doing here.

The rest – all those complaints from people that no one is listening to them anymore – that’s the sideshow of the narcissist­s.

I want to be free to say, and to say loudly, that people who believe that gays should be executed, and that people who want to abandon the religion of their childhood should similarly face a death sentence, have no place in New Zealand.

DON BRASH

My team strongly supports the motion that PC culture has gone too far to the point of limiting freedom of speech. Indeed, this is so obviously true that I almost feel sorry for our opponents trying to argue the negative of this motion.

Let me immediatel­y make it clear that we are not arguing that there should be absolutely no limits on free speech.

It has been long recognised that it cannot be acceptable to shout “Fire” in a crowded theatre.

It cannot be acceptable to incite violence against person or property.

It should not be legal to post on the internet an explanatio­n of how to use 3D printing to make a handgun which cannot be detected by airport screening systems (a recent free speech issue in the US).

But that we have recently moved well beyond such restraints is indisputab­le.

Our Bill of Rights Act appears to provide a strong guarantee of freedom of speech, not unlike the protection afforded by the First Amendment to the US Constituti­on.

But the Human Rights Act passed in 1993 contradict­s that guarantee, by making it an offence to “publish or distribute . . . matter which is threatenin­g, abusive or insulting”, and it appears to be that legislatio­n which those who want to shut down free speech implicitly use.

Many people now recognise the dangers.

Last year, Paul Moon, history professor at Auckland University of Technology, quickly succeeded in getting nearly 30 prominent New Zealanders from all corners of the political spectrum to sign a statement emphasisin­g the vital importance of freedom of speech — people as different as Bryan Gould, Geoffrey Palmer, Tariana Turia and myself.

And just last month, there was an immediate reaction from a host of people, again as different as Chris Trotter and Lindsay Perigo, when Phil Goff purported to block two Canadians from speaking in an Auckland Council-owned facility — I say “purported to block” because it turned out, on being challenged, that he had not blocked them at all and had no legal power to do so.

Media leaders like John Roughan, Nevil Gibson and Tim Watkin chimed in.

Perhaps even more encouragin­g has been the quite extraordin­ary number of people who over the last 48 hours have strongly deplored the decision by the vice chancellor of Massey University to ban me from giving a totally innocuous speech about my time in politics.

Matt Robson, a former Alliance Member of Parliament, phoned me the other night and said: “Don, you and I disagree on almost every policy issue, but we are very much in agreement on the issue of free speech.”

So a large number of people have now become aware of just how far the PC culture, which permeates much of our society, has gone to shut down discussion on issues regarded as in some way “beyond the pale”.

These issues relate to religion, to sexual orientatio­n, to family structure, to the rights of different racial groups, to climate change — you name it.

There are some issues which are regarded as just too sensitive to discuss.

A year or so back, I read a book by Niall Ferguson which noted that while Jews made up only about 0.2 per cent of the world’s population, and only 2 per cent of the American population, they had won 22 per cent of all Nobel prizes, 38 per cent of the Oscars for Best Director and 67 per cent of the John Bates Clark Medals for economists under the age of 40. No fewer than 23 per cent of the CEOs of the Forbes 400 companies are Jewish, as are the founders or co-founders of most of the world’s biggest technology companies, such as Facebook, Google, Intel and Oracle.

Now I don’t know why that is the case, and I hasten to add that I am not a Jew myself, but it is impossible to ignore the possibilit­y that, at very least, Jewish culture is superior to many other cultures.

The Treaty of Waitangi was an extraordin­ary document for its time — indeed, for any time — because it makes it quite explicit in Article III that all New Zealanders should have the same legal status. Yet to say that today risks accusation­s of racism, and certainly risks being shut out of council-owned facilities, as Bruce Moon was in Nelson a couple of months ago.

Recently, the Human Rights Commission sought to ban disharmoni­ous comments that are “targeted at the religion and beliefs of ethnic minority communitie­s” in New Zealand — which being interprete­d means you are free to insult Christians and Christiani­ty but not Muslims and Islam.

And that surely is political correctnes­s gone mad. I want to be free to say, and to say loudly, that people who believe that gays should be executed, and that people who want to abandon the religion of their childhood should similarly face a death sentence, have no place in New Zealand.

At the moment, the politicall­y correct amongst us would stop me from saying that.

Salman Rushdie once said: “There is no such thing as a right not to be offended.” And he was right.

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Photo / Duncan Brown
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Photo / Doug Sherring

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