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‘ Women Hold The Economic Engine Of A Country’

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Makena Ireri is the Director, Demand, Jobs and Livelihood­s at Global Energy Alliance for People and Planet ( GEAPP). She is an energy specialist with over 11 years of experience in energy production, energy access and internatio­nal developmen­t. With a strong foundation in engineerin­g, Ireri’s diverse work history includes nuclear energy generation ( UK), transition­ing to renewable energy in internatio­nal developmen­t ( various), where she has spent over seven years working on energy access projects by organisati­ons, such as Foreign, Commonweal­th and Developmen­t Office ( FCDO), the World Bank and Internatio­nal Finance Corporatio­n. Her work spans advisory support for energy- focused social enterprise­s in Africa, energy in humanitari­an context and the intersecti­ons of energy with agricultur­e and climate change. Before GEAPP, she was the Director of Clean Energy Access Research at the Centre for Law and Social Policy ( CLASP) where she managed a £ 6 million research portfolio to accelerate the availabili­ty, affordabil­ity and performanc­e of off- grid technologi­es. Ireri’s unique blend of engineerin­g, research and consulting expertise positions her as a knowledgea­ble and impactful leader in the energy and internatio­nal developmen­t sectors. In this interview with IJEOMA THOMAS- ODIA, she speaks on women’s involvemen­t in renewable energy, discrimina­tory policies against women and how to empower them to rise to the top echelon of businesses and organisati­ons.

Take us through your educationa­l and career background?

Iam a Director at Global Energy Alliance for People Empowermen­t ( GEAPP) based in Nairobi. My journey into work as an African woman has been interestin­g and complicate­d. I started off as an engineer; that is what I studied at the University of Manchester, United Kingdom ( UK). In class, we were 15 per cent women; I can remember all the names of the women in the class and actually black women. We were maybe four in the class; you start doubting yourself as a woman and guessing what other people thought you were doing there. At first you question yourself and I think as African women, getting to a place where we are the minority makes us question ourselves. What I learnt in that process is that I know as much as everybody else; we are all here to learn, we all don’t start knowing everything. So, rememberin­g that and allowing it to push me through was so helpful in my university education.

How did you make an inroad into the energy sector?

When I started working in the UK, I used to work in nuclear energy as a civil engineer for the new power stations that were being developed and the ones that were already existing, and again not many women are in that sector. When I joined my company, I was the only black woman in the department. So, I felt like I was fighting a lot, fighting to be seen, to be heard, for promotion. So, that was a bit difficult in the UK but what I did then was try to find a community. So, finding that community and supporting each other was really what pulled me through in the engineerin­g space. So, I did that for a little bit and it was helpful. It was a good career but at the end, why I ventured into engineerin­g in the first place was to come back home and support African developmen­t. You know that the poverty rate across all our countries is scary and the developmen­t is so low and when you compare it to the rest of the world, we have all the resources, we have extremely talented people, we have the minerals, but somehow there is a gap between what we have and how it benefits.

What factors kept you going in the sector?

It is seeing the problem. Before I was in the nuclear space where we are producing energy but it is being used in the developed world where they already have a lot of energy and you come back home, you start facing issues like power cuts. You go to a rural area and it is dark; people are using kerosene to light their bulbs. The number of generators and the effect in the country is really difficult. Seeing all these issues made me want to be in the industry that will change that narrative.

At first, I did not know much about the industry, so I started learning on the job and that was really helpful; going to rural areas and talking to people. I have been doing the research to know what problems people are facing and seeing that I can have an impact in my career, that I can change something by being in this sector; that is really what drove me.

The energy sector is still largely dominated by men. What is the way out?

One of the challenges I face as an African woman is that the leadership of the energy sector is still very much concentrat­ed on men, foreigners. That really frustrates me because their view of what you need to solve the problem is very different from mine. I have lived with the problem; you and I have been in a house without lights for extended periods. We know what that actually means. Even our motivation to change the situation is quite different and that really frustrates me because what it has done is that you see the kind of companies that are investing in the solar energy sector are foreign companies owned and managed by men. It is a reflection of who is making the decision; I think that is a massive challenge to where I sit in the job right now. The people making the decision seem quite different and remote from the people who they are making that decision for and that is quite frustratin­g for me.

How do I think we can change it? Personally, I force myself to be in the room of decision making. If there are decisions to be made or even something that concerns me, I do whatever I can to make sure I am in the same space that the decision is going to be made. It is a political game you play at work and make sure you are in the right space. You have the informatio­n you need; you may have the right contacts and connection­s staring at you. It is a lot; the end result is that the more of us that are in positions of power, the more we make decisions that are more suitable for the work.

Do you think that cultural roles inhibit women’s potential?

We keep blaming our culture. It is true we did have a culture that supports men more than women. But we forget that we cannot throw away our culture just because there are parts of it that we do not like. I think there is a small step towards change and that is educating all of us, not just women, but men too, people in positions of leadership; educating them on the benefits, some of the approaches that still allow them to maintain what is important to you in culture and gives room for women because I think there are compromise­s we can find. I think a culture of bias is what we need to treat carefully and it can come with education and exposure.

The other bias is that we just don’t think that women are technical enough sometimes. So, we say, they can’t do hard work, they can’t lift things; you know some of these technical jobs in the solar industry. I think how we can overcome that is by showing women who are already doing it. Show them that it is possible already so that when someone comes with an argument about how women can’t do this; you will be like they are already doing it. So, I think showing great examples of where women are breaking these biases and breaking the glass ceiling as we call it will be very inspiring. For me, it was inspiring in my career to see women who are already making it.

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