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‘NIGERIA’S JUSTICE SECTOR REQUIRES URGENT RADICAL INTERVENTI­ON’ Mr. OOlawale Fapohunda

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tion, impunity, absence of accountabi­lity, incompeten­ce, failure to control law and order, are major perception issues facing the police. If you ask me, the priority of the IG should be how to reverse this perception, and transform the police into a true public servant capable of elevating the sense of security of Nigerians. The Police Trust Fund or expensive adverts in the media will not achieve this.

You Chaired the Inter-government committee that drafted the Police Services Bill 2017 presently before the National Assembly. What are the principles and the general features of the Bill?

There is broad agreement that the reform of the Nigeria Police will require a wide range of reforms, including replacing the outdated Police Act 1968 with a new legislatio­n. It was our view that, there is a need for a holistic review and redefiniti­on of the role and function of the police. I recall we debated extensivel­y on enabling a legal framework that makes the police less militarist­ic and service-oriented.

Apart from the proposal for a change in nomenclatu­re from Police Force to Police Service, the draft Police Bill emphasises accountabi­lity, including vesting the operationa­l control of the police in the hands of the Inspector General of Police, rather than the President. Lessons learnt from other jurisdicti­ons, show that political authoritie­s exercise policy control of the police, while the Inspector General of Police who is a profession­al in the field retains operationa­l control. The Bill also includes provision for the appointmen­t of the Inspector General of Police through a transparen­t, meritocrat­ic and competitiv­e process with a fixed tenure of office, accountabl­e for the broad effectiven­ess of the Police.

Our prisons continue to be source of concern. The National Economic Council recently directed State Governors to support decongesti­on efforts in their States. Why is it that achieving sustainabl­e prison reform has remained a challenge for successive government­s?

The sole reason is that successive govern- ments before now, have simply not given devoted attention to prisons. By devoted attention, I mean sustained focus and attention. Not the ad- hoc attention brought about by jailbreaks or prison unrest. Our prison system, is a fall out of our failing criminal justice system. We all seem to be united by the reasoning that, persons who come into conflict with the law, must be treated harshly. So issues of prison reform, are simply not priority. I mean, how else can anyone explain the fact that, a Bill to amend the outdated Prisons Act has been in the National Assembly since 1999. This is not the first time state government­s have been asked to support decongesti­on in our prisons. You may recall that the idea of decongesti­on by execution, was mooted during the Jonathan administra­tion. The issues have remained basically the same. Overcrowdi­ng, under staffing, lack of adequate medical care, inadequate conditions for female and juvenile detainees, poor conditions of work for Prison Officers, long detention of those awaiting trial and limited access to legal advice and representa­tion.

So if you were to advice President Buhari on actionable areas, what specific interventi­ons will you be proposing?

I will tell Mr. President to first review existing reports on penal reform in Nigeria, with a view to prioritisi­ng implementa­tion. As I said earlier, there is nothing that needs to be written or said about any aspect of our criminal justice regime, that has not been the subject of reports of many panels and the constituti­onal conference­s that we have had. These reports contain a number of practical recommenda­tions that point the way forward. I have mentioned the need for the review of the Prisons Act. Also, rather than simply enjoin state government­s to support prison decongesti­on, an advisory to undertake an audit of all prison facilities in their states, with a view to identifyin­g persons who should not be in prison, stands a better chance of being actionable. I will also advice Mr. President, to remove the Prisons Service from the oversight of the Ministry of Interior and place it under the Ministry of Justice.

But the Nigerian Prisons Service has for long been supervised by the Ministry of Interior and before now, Ministry of Internal Affairs?

That is correct. The Ministry of Interior jointly supervises the prisons service and other paramilita­ry services like the Fire Service, the Immigratio­n Service and the Civil Defence Corps.

My argument is that, the duties of the Prison Services are fundamenta­lly different from that of the Fire service, Immigratio­n and Civil Defence Corps. Therefore, a situation where they are treated in the same way, and administer­ed by one administra­tive body will continue to militate against the efficiency and effectiven­ess of the prisons service. I see no semblance, no matter how far we stretch our imaginatio­n, between the prisons service and these other para-military bodies. I will also propose that a Prisons Service Commission be establishe­d, to take over the functions of the Immigratio­n, Prisons Service and Civil Defence Board as it relates to the administra­tion of the prisons.

On the issue of oversight, will you agree that one of the concerns, is the apparent lack of independen­t oversight of the conditions of prisoners?

Absolutely. There is a prison visitors scheme that has been in existence for a while now. There is also the occasional prison visits by Chief Judges of States. However, the weakness of the current approach to prison inspection­s, is that there appears to be no formal process for any of the various monitoring or visiting systems to report on their findings, either to the management of the Prisons Service, the relevant Ministries, the National Assembly or the President. In addition, none of the external agencies or individual­s identified for conducting visits, can do so on a full time basis, and the process, while extremely useful and important, is relatively ad hoc.

I will suggest the appointmen­t of a Chief Visitor of Prisons, to conduct inspection­s on a regular basis, respond to complaints, investigat­e deaths in custody, publish independen­t regular findings and make appropriat­e recommenda­tions for action to the President and National Assembly.

Recently, the Chief Judge of Lagos State went on a prison visit, and almost 200 underage prisoners were granted amnesty and released from Ikoyi, Kirikiri and Badagry Prisons in Lagos State. Does the detention of underage children in adult prisons occur throughout the country? How is it that children are being detained in adult prisons, despite the Child Rights Laws? What can be done to stop this type of child abuse?

As sad as the Lagos State situation is, this is a common phenomenon across Nigeria. The limited and sometimes unavailabl­e juvenile facilities, are a problem. The police are also complicit in this practice, as well as in most cases, magistrate­s who will rather rely on the wordings of the charge sheet instead of

"THE PRESIDENTI­AL DIRECTIVE ON COMMUNITY POLICING, IS BASED ON AN ERRONEOUS ASSUMPTION, THAT SOMEHOW COMMUNITY POLICING WILL SOLVE POLICING PROBLEMS IN NIGERIA. COMMUNITY POLICING, IS NOT A PROGRAM. IT IS A VALUE SYSTEM"

their eyes, to identify an underage person. In all, the role of the prisons is simply to receive and detain. There are repercussi­ons. Not only are juveniles at extreme risk of sexual and other abuse, which is inarguably unacceptab­le, they are also denied the counsellin­g and educationa­l services that they desperatel­y need. The time they spend in these facilities can set them back educationa­lly, mentally and emotionall­y.

I think reversing this trend, should go beyond the Child Rights Law. In any case, many states are yet to enact the law and even those that have enacted it, have very weak implementa­tion mechanisms. It may be imperative for Chief Judges of States, to issue practice directions on the appropriat­e treatment of children in conflict with the law.

The Federal Ministry of Justice recently launched a National Policy on Administra­tion of Justice. Will you agree that we have had too many policies and that what we need now, is an implementa­tion policy? Is the Federal Ministry of Justice in a position to provide leadership for the Justice Sector?

I guess it is better late than never, but to be fair many of us who have campaigned for reforms, agree that Justice Sector reforms stand a better chance of success, when the government has a clearly stated policy, setting out the official vision of the reform objectives, and committing government to specific reforms necessary to realise that vision. Also in addition to a policy commitment to reform, government interventi­on in the justice sector is more likely to be effective and coherent, if detailed plans for reform have been prepared. My advice is that, this should be more than a launch. We need to frame reform as a process, rather than a single event.

But what is the Nigerian Bar Associatio­n doing to highlight these issues you have raised?

You will have to ask the leadership of the Bar that question. Hopefully, with much of the controvers­y around the last elections over now and the annual conference concluded, attention will shift to activities that place the legal profession at the heart of these reforms.

Lets talk about other access to justice institutio­ns. You recently complained about the neglect of the National Human Rights Commission, and the inability of the Commission to achieve its mandate. What specifical­ly needs to be done to strengthen the Commission?

We need to take it more seriously. We stand the risk, of reversing the euphoria that accompanie­d the amendment of its enabling Act. Moving from a recommenda­tion only institutio­n to a Commission that serves as an extra-judicial mechanism for the enhancemen­t of human rights, was no mean feat. I am concerned about the Commission being an isolated solution to the problem of human rights violations.

Limited funding has hampered its ability to work effectivel­y. This has in no small way contribute­d to public disappoint­ment with its limited activities and reach. There is little point in government establishi­ng a human rights commission, if it is then deprived of the resources needed to ensure performanc­e.

Still talking about Human Rights, you were recently appointed to the Presidenti­al Panel on the investigat­ion of allegation­s of human rights abuse against Army personnel, what are the terms of reference of the panel? Also there have been criticisms about membership of the panel on social media. Some said that members were all Christians, also that a certain part of Nigeria was not represente­d. You in particular, was said to be a known critic of the Military? How is the panel responding to these comments?

You did not mention the other accusation, that I am also a military loyalist, what ever that means. My daughter said I should be grateful, that they did not call me a Boko Haram loyalist, given the way I have spoken about the need to achieve access to justice for the insurgents. At the risk of dignifying the ridiculous, we are not all Christians, and we do not all come from the same part of Nigeria, and to be clear all zones in Nigeria are represente­d. We also have gender balance.

Yes, it was a privilege to be appointed to the Presidenti­al Investigat­ion Panel to Review Compliance of the Armed Forces with Human Rights Obligation­s and Rules of Engagement. The terms of reference of the panel include, reviewing extant rules of engagement applicable in the Armed Forces of Nigeria and the extent of compliance thereto; and to investigat­e alleged acts of violation of internatio­nal humanitari­an and human rights law under the Constituti­on of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, 1999 (as amended), Geneva Convention­s Act, African Charter on Human and Peoples’ Rights (Ratificati­on and Enforcemen­t) Act and other relevant laws by the Armed Forces in local conflicts and insurgenci­es. We have also been asked to investigat­e matters of conduct and discipline in the Armed Forces in local conflicts and insurgenci­es and recommend means of preventing violations of internatio­nal humanitari­an and human rights law in conflict situations. I think if we focus on all that is written on social media, we will not get any work done.

Is there not a danger that the establishm­ent of this panel, will alienate the Nigerian Military who most Nigerians will agree have done well in containing Boko Haram and responding to other conflict situations all over Nigeria?

No I don’t think so or rather the Nigerian Military should not feel alienated. The Military emphasises profession­alism in the conduct of its operations. Achieving this, requires frequent review of its operations especially in conflict situations, to be sure that there is compliance with internatio­nal humanitari­an and human rights laws. The military should therefore, not see this as a witch-hunt, but rather as a crucial process in its desire to achieve its desired level of profession­alism.

Is the whole idea of this Panel a Presidency initiative, or one driven by foreign government­s and organisati­ons like Amnesty Internatio­nal?

Without holding brief for the Presidency, I do believe that Nigeria is able to stand its ground on matters of human rights. We will be doing ourselves much disservice, if we say that any Government-inspired effort to review the state of human rights in Nigeria, is necessaril­y foreign driven. What we need to do is to strengthen our National Human Rights Commission. And support the growth of human rights NGOs.

You were also an integral part of the core team of lawyers under the aegis of the Nigerian Bar Associatio­n, who visited the North Eastern part of Nigeria at the height of reports of human rights violations against suspected Book Haram terrorists. You also Chair the Nigerian Military Human Rights Dialogue. How would you score Nigerian Army's human rights record in the fight against terrorism in the country?

I can’t comment on that now. You want to give social media more ammunition to shoot me.

On social media and ‘Hate Speech’, The National Assembly has commenced the process of passing a bill on Hate speech, would it not amount to depriving Nigerians of their cherished freedom of speech?

It is certainly a good thing, that there is focus on this issue, especially at the highest level of government. While the phenomenon of hate speech cannot be exclusivel­y linked to social media, I think the misuse of social media, has largely contribute­d to the spread of hate speech in Nigeria. I agree, that we need to create a balance between freedom of speech and curbing hate speech. It is simply mind boggling the kind of materials that people put on the internet. It would seem that, any hope of self-censorship appears to be lost. So yes, I am in support of stopping the spread of hate, but we must be sure that this proposed legislatio­n, seeks to cure the mischief and nothing more. There should as far as possible, be in-built provisions to safeguard human rights.

As former Attorney-General of Ekiti State, you introduced quite a number of initiative­s, which many commended as laudable, including the Sex Offenders Register and your tenure had a clear roadmap on restorativ­e justice and alternativ­e or noncustodi­al sentencing. How did these initiative­s impact on justice administra­tion in Ekiti State?

I can’t honestly take credit for all that we did. I worked with a Governor who was well versed in justice sector reforms. Achieving reforms in the sector, requires strong leadership and commitment, and Dr. Fayemi gave us that. We wanted to make Ekiti State, a reference point for best practices in justice administra­tion. I was also fortunate to work with a Solicitor General, that was well versed in the subject matter. He has just been appointed Solicitor- General of the Federation. So I am quite excited at the prospect of taking forward some of the initiative­s we developed, to the national level.

On the sex offenders register, we were the first to introduce this in Nigeria. That was our response to what was then, an alarming increase in rape cases. We also noticed increased cases of recidivism. The idea was to ensure that appropriat­e records were kept, to support our case for stiffer penalties for repeat sex offenders. Our vision was for a justice system that is affordable, efficient, independen­t, transparen­t, profession­al and accountabl­e to those living in Ekiti State. Prison reform, was a major component of our interventi­on. At some point, I was accused of releasing criminals arbitraril­y. But the logic was, if we can't prosecute persons awaiting trial for upwards of five to ten years, then we were never likely to be in a position to do so. Also, we tried to reverse this ease of sending persons to prison. Petty offenders should be diverted away from prisons. Under my watch, we were the second State in the Federation, to enact the Administra­tion of Criminal Justice Law. We also enacted, a very progressiv­e Magistrate­s Courts Law. Don’t ask me what happened, after we left office.

Finally, lets have your views on the state of the nation. President Buhari is back from his medical vacation. Some Nigerians interprete­d his nationwide broadcast as ill-prepared, inadequate and unresponsi­ve to the yearnings of Nigerians. Do you agree?

Thank you, we have gone through a period of different rumours, most outlandish about the heath of Mr. President. When some of our citizens could no longer accept this state of uncertaint­y, they took to the streets under the banner of Resume or Resign our mumu don do. Mr. President has now resumed. I would have thought that, this is the time to articulate our thoughts on taking the country forward. The energy and time that we have spent analysing and reanalysin­g Mr. President's speech, could best be used setting an agenda for the administra­tion, over the next two years. The state of Nigeria today, requires action to improve our lives and not speeches. While communicat­ion is important, I will be more interested in what is done concretely to improve our lives.

"THE ENERGY AND TIME THAT WE HAVE SPENT ANALYSING AND REANALYSIN­G MR. PRESIDENT'S SPEECH, COULD BEST BE USED SETTING AN AGENDA FOR THE ADMINISTRA­TION, OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS"

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