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I Wasn’t Part of the Stealing Gang in PDP

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comeback to Ekiti State Government House on the platform of the APC. Why?

First, I consider people’s opinion. There’s is pressure on me from people who believe I still have a lot to contribute. I’ve been urged to run, and I have cause to say the majority would go in my direction. If I refuse to run, I reduce my party’s opportunit­ies for a resounding win. Nothing else will make me happy than to have this party in power. I also believe we can do things differentl­y. I’ve been there and I believe there’s a lot we can do over and above what we have done before. We have to build a party that will be capable, big enough, organised to produce the kind of stability Lagos enjoys. I believe we can do a lot more. The youths are disappoint­ed; their expectatio­ns are not met and no one is thinking in their direction. When I was leaving the university, there was a 70 per cent chance I would get a job in the late 70’s. Today, it’s less than a 10 per cent chance that a school leaver would get a job. We are not creating alternativ­es for them so they are frustrated. I believe the world needs a master plan for the youth. We can make ourselves a guinea pig for a new social and economic order. I don’t have all the answers but we are working and it’s a challenge. I believe it’s going to be an opportunit­y to do something new.

What will be your economic agenda for Ekiti State?

It will be serious drive for entreprene­urship, investment, and economic growth premised on agricultur­e and agro-processing. I believe we can do better than we are doing now. We’ll try our hands on informatio­n technology. This economy will be different substantia­lly from the way it is running right now. The new social order would confront the frustratin­g challenge of inequity. We can settle these inequities by showing examples. Part of a new social order is getting young ones to take the future seriously in their hands. I lodged at a hotel recently, and they said if you are paying with a debit/ credit card you pay less than paying cash.

I confronted the owner of the hotel that it should be the other way round since it’s cash. He said no, that cash will be stolen.

Is there a unique idea or strategy that can help a state like Ekiti to generate wealth and investment to build the state?

When I was the governor, we were looking at green fuel. We had almost concluded a deal with some Chinese investors and a Nigerian consultant for a refinery to produce ethanol in Ilemosho in Oye local government area. We had done the test and they had double more than expected yield because it’s a very fertile environmen­t. They would have been producing about 30 megawatts of electricit­y, and the GDP of Ekiti State through that investment would have doubled. It’s a small economy. If we can do that, we’ll produce the kind of economic environmen­t that people want to see. We are thinking. I constructe­d roads, primary health care centres with equipment. To conserve lands so there’ll be playground­s. We brought flowers to primary schools. I built the first and best eye hospital and the teaching hospital. So, we have shown that we can do all this. That’s not the excitement I’m going back to. I’ll like us to have a situation where there is stability and continuity in Ekiti.

Electricit­y supply is terrible in Ekiti. How does that make you feel?

It makes me feel very bad. When we did solar power for streets, we knew that electricit­y was hardly available. If solar power was well maintained it wouldn’t have been a total blackout. We are starting a new stable, sustainabl­e social and economic drive that will be enduring. We are learning.

What’s your honest assessment of Ekiti State since you left power?

I don’t want to talk about what has and hasn’t happened when I was not there, because it won’t be a fair assessment. We are brothers and were in the same party. We’ve identified a problem that’s not a direct criticism of anybody. It’s a response to the gap that we have seen and this is a gap about the frustratio­n of the youth being reared into poverty not because of their inadequacy or lack of preparatio­n but the society has not made available the sufficient opportunit­ies for them. This is the problem we are going after.

The serving governor has been very critical of your party especially the President. What’s your view on that?

Everybody knows the utterances of my governor, has unfortunat­ely been very unreasonab­le, and without mincing words, we are unhappy. People he thinks he’s talking for, are setting him down the slippery terrain, watching him slide downward. I want him to learn. As Ekiti people, we are not happy he’s representi­ng us that way; because the governor is the face of the state and whatever he says is said by us; whatever he does right is done for us. I want him to stop (his utterances) especially now that Buhari is back. By God’s grace, he’s hale, hearty and we are all very happy.

Fayose has announced his presidenti­al ambition, do you see this as a ruse or reality?

I will not talk about that. Anybody can have a presidenti­al aspiration. It depends on whether that person is saying it because he wants attention or he’s saying it because he really wants to be president of this country. I don’t think he’s saying it because he wants to be president of this country. I’m a politician and I’ve been in this business for a while now. I don’t have a crystal ball but I know what is doable and what’s not. I know what’s feasible and what’s not. I’m not God, but I don’t see it as a project of reality. It could be that he wants attention and from the process of getting attention, he may get something else.

If you look back, do you feel totally fulfilled as a one-time Ekiti governor?

Not totally, but I feel fulfilled. I am fully convinced that one of the greatest opportunit­ies that God can give anybody is that of ruling a state because you can affect people you know and you don’t know in a way that the impression can last a lifetime. If you do it well, the goodwill is forever; if you mess it up, the anger against your person, generation will also be forever.

What would you have loved to do differentl­y?

I ran a micro-credit scheme that didn’t succeed. I wanted to use it as an opportunit­y to create wealth, but I missed out a gap. I should have first created a very solid cooperativ­e system before setting up the scheme. It didn’t succeed and I feel that is a failure. However, we didn’t steal the money.

Two years down the line Nigerians can’t see positive change APC promised. Why is it so?

The people on the streets should remember very quickly where we are coming from. When Buhari came into power, we were flying the flag of Boko Haram, but today we are very proud to say there’s no territory in this Nigeria flying other flags aside the green white green. That’s an achievemen­t and Nigerians. Those destroyers would have overrun two or three states today. Before Buhari came, corruption rode on horses, limousines and private jets. Today, the story is different. Recently, 56 properties were seized from a former minister. If someone in government less than a decade has 70 choice properties to show for it, this is a rape on all of us. People are not looking at it what could be the alternativ­e solution to where we are now if that had continued.

You were in the same party before. Does being on the opposition now make you approbate and reprobate in your own court?

No. Even in the PDP then, it’s not all of who were part of the stealing gang. I did not steal, and if anyone knows anything I stole, they are free to say it. Leadership is the face of any entity and what it condoles or frowns at is what the entity imitates. It’s unfortunat­e, but the PDP didn’t do well. Decent individual­s had no opportunit­y to correct things, so they are judged on the performanc­e of the leadership.

What is your position on restructur­ing?

Let us see what good idea will come about what to restructur­e, how to restructur­e, and when to restructur­e.

There have been projection­s that seven APC governors may lose reelection in 2019. What do you think?

I don’t believe that we would lose any state; rather, I believe we would add a few more to what we have.

When I was the governor, we were looking at green fuel. We had almost concluded a deal with some Chinese investors and a Nigerian consultant for a refinery to produce ethanol in Ilemosho in Oye local government area. We had done the test and they had double more than expected yield because it’s a very fertile environmen­t. They would have been producing about 30 megawatts of electricit­y, and the GDP of Ekiti State through that investment would have doubled. It’s a small economy. If we can do that, we’ll produce the kind of economic environmen­t that people want to see. We are thinking. I constructe­d roads, primary health care centres with equipment

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