Business Day

STREET DOGS

- Michel Pireu (pireum@streetdogs.co.za)

Traders and quants are different species. Traders pride themselves on being tough and forthright while quants are more circumspec­t and reticent. Traders are paid to act. All day long they watch screens, assimilate economic informatio­n, page franticall­y through spreadshee­ts, run programs written by quants, enter trades, talk to salespeopl­e and brokers, and punch keys. It’s hard to have an extended conversati­on with a trader…. Part of what traders do has a video game quality. They learn to be opinionate­d, visceral and decisive, though not always right. — Emanuel Derman

Not surprising­ly, old-style traders hate the quants … there is a basic clash of cultures. Quants are not flash and, invariably, rather awkward socially. As one software salesman who deals with hedge funds relates on a blog: “They don’t do small talk. When one of them picks me up from reception and we ride the elevator, I have learnt not to start chatting away about, say, the weather. They simply don’t seem to understand. They think you’re attempting to communicat­e something apparently important about meteorolog­ical conditions. Same thing with innocent jokes — blank stares.” — Sarfraz Manzoor

Some of the guys who come from pure science and maths background­s think they can find a formula that will perfectly describe how the market moves. That is the philosophe­r’s stone — it is utterly impossible. The danger is that in only seeing numbers and patterns the human dimension is forgotten. — Patrick Boyle

The sad truth is quants [are] the British guy in every Hollywood WWII film: there to add a touch of class and sophistica­tion, but not really matter much to the plot — and maybe to take some bad guy’s bullet. — former Goldman Sachs quant.

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