Some things change, oth­ers stay the same

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The spy tapes were record­ings made in the run-up to the ANC’s 2007 elec­tive con­fer­ence. Back then, Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma was on Thabo Mbeki’s slate — a big change from to­day. Yet 10 years on, other things re­main much the same. Here are some ex­cerpts from the tapes:

I mean, take the bloody women’s league. There is a de­ci­sion that there must be 50/50, right? So in the top six there must be three women and three men. OK … the NEC [na­tional ex­ec­u­tive com­mit­tee] has taken that de­ci­sion. [Ja­cob] Zuma’s slate, they only have two women in the top six, you un­der­stand, only two.


The women go and vote against women, they have just voted now … Zuma got 29, Mbeki got 25, Kgalema [Mot­lanthe] got 26, Nkosazana got 24. The women’s league voted against the women as deputy pres­i­dent. Can you be­lieve that?


On a Dlamini-Zuma in­ter­view:

Can you tell me some­thing? How was Nkosazana this morn­ing?

Shock­ing. No.

Jis­sus, shock­ing. That’s why I sent SMS — she could not say what the fuck she stands for. She was ten­ta­tive, vul­ner­a­ble, in­se­cure, took long. You know with the me­dia, you are fa­mous for 15 min­utes. When the guy asks the ques­tion, you must be very, very sure about what you want to say. You must be assertive, you must be con­fi­dent, you must sound in­tel­li­gent. You must sound like some­one who wants to be a pres­i­dent, for God’s sake. And I did not see that.

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