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How financial therapy can relieve you during a pandemic

EXPERTS HELP PEOPLE MANAGE THEIR PSYCHOLOGI­CAL STRUGGLES AROUND MONEY

- BY PAUL SULLIVAN

Dale Mackey closed her event space in Knoxville, Tennessee, a week before the state issued its orders to end large gatherings. She did not think about the economic ramificati­ons of shuttering her business, the Central Collective; she said it was the right thing to do to reduce the spread of the virus.

Work dried up for her husband, Shawn Poynter, a photograph­er, so to help make ends meet, Mackey began spending more time on a side business, making sweet and savoury pies and selling them online. She and her husband are in their mid-30s and have some savings and no debt beyond mortgages on their home and the event space, so they were content hunkering down. But as the weeks wore on, thoughts of financial anxiety began to emerge. “It’s much more of a struggle for me about when we can reopen,” she said, adding that the uncertaint­y began to weigh on her. “It’s different if I knew we were going to be opening in three months.”

Increased stress

In this financial crisis, many Americans are facing increased stress about money. But Mackey turned to a solution that few people try: She sought a financial therapist, a profession­al trained to counsel people about their money woes. Most have advanced degrees in psychology or clinical social work.

Mackey found Amanda Clayman, a financial therapist in Los Angeles who has a podcast on financial therapy within WNYC’s Death, Sex and Money franchise.

“When you bring up the topic of financial therapy, people are like, ‘That’s me, I want help,’ or their level of defensiven­ess is so intense,” said Clayman, who puts people on the proverbial couch for her podcast, “Financial Therapy With Amanda Clayman,” which was introduced this week.

The pandemic is an ideal time to lay bare people’s psychologi­cal struggles around money, she said, because the financial fallout from closing the US economy for months is far from certain. Add to that the guesswork around how lockdown orders may have changed consumer spending habits. “This pandemic is like a black light,” Clayman said. “It’s suddenly revealing all the things that were present before, but unseen.”

Emotionall­y scarred

Now is the time to engage, because Americans are going to emerge from the coronaviru­s recession emotionall­y scarred in a way similar to the military veterans who suffer from post-traumatic stress disorder, said Brad Klontz, a financial psychologi­st in Boulder, Colorado, and a pioneer in the field of financial therapy.

“We’re experienci­ng a mass trauma across the United States, if not the world,” Klontz said.

It’s much more of a struggle for me about when we can reopen. It’s different if I knew we were going to be opening in three months.”

Dale Mackey | Entreprene­ur

“Our illusion that we’re safe has been shattered. It’s like a psychologi­cal earthquake.”

He is optimistic, though, that people can use this experience to think more deeply about their financial values. “It’s been a forced wake-up call for everyone in the world,” he said. “We have just been offered a crisis to give us an opportunit­y to think about money.”

At home in Knoxville, Mackey said she was coming to terms with the loss of security she had gained in the past two years. “I was in my groove, and I was pretty content,” she said. “I was working a reasonable amount, earning a reasonable amount, able to take some time off of work here and there.”

Now she said she was worried about finances as Tennessee gradually reopens. By next month, when event spaces are allowed to be open at 50% capacity, her venue could be up and running, a prospect that would be good financiall­y for her, though she’s wrestling with it because of safety issues.

“It’s going to be dicey if you can be open, but we don’t think it’s safe to do so,” she said. “That’s when it gets complicate­d. You have all these contracts to fulfil.”

The concern that financial therapists have now is that people will get stuck in what is known as catastroph­ic thinking. “Listen for those thoughts that come up in our head that say things like it’s pointless to invest your heart and soul in something because it can just be taken away,” Clayman said. “Or the thought that says, ‘This is all on my shoulders and I can’t depend on anybody.’”

Great Depression

She said people should allow themselves to get angry but then begin to address the underlying feelings we have with money that anger often masks.

Planning for the worst-case scenario allows most people to understand that they will survive, Klontz said. Those who have been financiall­y traumatise­d, particular­ly children and young adults whose education has been disrupted, could get stuck in a fearbased mentality, akin to what many in the Great Depression generation carried with them.

Now is when the stories we tell ourselves become critical. “Money is a concrete thing that we use for practical purposes, but we cannot separate the concrete part from the meaning point,” Clayman said. “That’s not a choice we can make. We can avoid it, but that doesn’t make it go away.”

After all, she said, “we’re human beings and our brains are set up to understand the world in stories.” Which ones we remember from this crisis will be important in determinin­g what our financial lives look like going forward.

The concern that financial therapists have now is that people will get stuck in what is known as catastroph­ic thinking.

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