BBC History Magazine

The future for the past

- INTERVIEW BY RHIANNON DAVIES

Four historians discuss the issues shaping the study of history in universiti­es, from Covid-19 to calls to decolonise the curriculum

The teaching of history at universiti­es is facing huge challenges: courses are being cut, debates rage about decolonisi­ng curricula, and the Covid-19 crisis is only adding to the pressure. Historians Sophie Ambler, Richard Partington, Jason Todd and Anna Whitelock discuss the big issues confrontin­g the academic discipline of history

Rhiannon Davies Competitio­n between institutio­ns and courses is increasing­ly fierce, with funding cuts adding to the pressures. So why should people study history at university?

Anna Whitelock I think it’s a really important question, and a challengin­g one. The number of applicatio­ns for degrees in history and history-related subjects has fallen in recent years. But, in my opinion, the need for history and to study it is perhaps greater than ever. History is, of course, about looking backwards and gaining knowledge and understand­ing, but it’s also a lens through which to engage with the present. In that sense, it’s critical – it’s not simply about being stuck in the past and in the archive.

Sophie Ambler Studying history at university can also teach us empathy – the ability to put ourselves in the shoes, through our sources, of somebody who might have lived on the far side of the world or down our street 100 or 1,000 years ago, and understand what forces shaped their world or how they sought to shape it. And that can sometimes be a very uncomforta­ble experience – it can sometimes be very challengin­g – but it’s what we do as historians.

In a world of increasing­ly polarised debate, the ability to empathise with people who might have a very different situation and world view to us is one of the other reasons why history is so crucial now.

Richard Partington In terms of transferab­le skills, the value of history remains immensely high. But I also think about history from a leisure perspectiv­e: it’s one of the ways people escape from the pressures and worries of life. And it’s very important that we remind everyone, I think, that learning to do something that will help you in your private life as well as your profession­al and public life is really important.

Jason Todd I agree: it’s enormous fun. And, from a career perspectiv­e, a history degree can set you up well. History’s got this ability to adapt to a range of different profession­s, and I think that’s really important given the prevailing idea that STEM [Science, Technology, Engineerin­g and Mathematic­s] is the only field where you can have a lucrative and productive career. In fact, evidence suggests that history can lead to great careers. It might be a slower burn but, ultimately, postgradua­te historians can earn as much as anybody else might in particular profession­s.

AW I also think it’s really important to acknowledg­e that history yields creative content. Historical research makes its way into television programmes and radio programmes, and into audio guides at heritage sites. Increasing­ly, and really excitingly, it’s also used in online historical computer games, which is a huge growth area – more and more gamers are wanting to explore authentic historical worlds. It’s kind of amazing how these sorts of careers are spawned by history.

There’s a quote that I really love from Steve Jobs, who said: “It is in Apple’s DNA that technology alone is not enough – it’s technology married with liberal arts, married with the humanities, that yields us the results that make our heart sing.” In other words, it’s the humanities that give soul to something – and increasing­ly that’s being appreciate­d in the high-tech sector and in the AI sector. There, the big challenges for the future are: what can machines not do that humans can?

That knowledge, that understand­ing and that empathy is absolutely critical. In a sense, historians are the custodians of humanity, and it’s really important that we feed into the new directions of modern technology, design and the workplace. So as much as it’s about the past, it’s really critical for the future.

SA It’s also worth pointing out how good history is, and historical­ly has been, as a preparatio­n for leadership in the UK and the rest of the world. We’re in an age now where the president of the United States is a history graduate. If you look at the number of MPs and cabinet ministers in the UK who have history degrees or classics degrees – including our prime minister – you’ll see that the numbers are substantia­l. The big questions of history seem to be such a good preparatio­n for leadership roles.

If I think, for instance, of my own special subject module at Lancaster looking at the 13th century, it’s the world of Magna Carta and Simon de Montfort in the European context. The big questions we consider – such as how government­s wield power, what are the limits of their rule, how can they be held to account, what possibilit­ies are open to a female when she steps into a leadership role in a patriarcha­l world – are perennial. Thinking about these kinds of debates through history sets up history graduates to be leaders, whether that’s in technology or industry, in teaching or in government.

RD 'arlier this year, Aston University and London’s Southbank University announced plans to cut their history courses. What implicatio­ns will cuts like these have for history as a discipline?

RP In my present job, as academic head of an institutio­n which is 70 per cent STEM, I’m perhaps uniquely placed to answer this. I think we’re in a phase in which there has been a rather crude understand­ing of the importance of STEM. Historical analysis shows that the UK has been underperfo­rming in all sorts of ways – in terms of scientific developmen­t, engineerin­g, research and developmen­t, a whole pile of things – so I understand why the government has pushed the STEM line so consistent­ly. But I think this repeated assertion that STEM is the only way forward in terms of careers has really undercut what’s been going on in history department­s around the UK.

It’s important that we remind ourselves of times when there have been real panics about the disappeara­nce of subjects such as chemistry or mathematic­s. So the threat that history seems to be under right now is certainly something we should be considerin­g, I think very seriously. But this is a moment, and the moment may shift.

RD 'fforts are increasing­ly being made to “decolonise” the curriculum – to better represent non-'uropean voices, and to improve historical awareness of the often problemati­c contexts of sources and events. How is this being achieved in practice, and should more be done?

JT There’s a danger that we look at decolonisa­tion only in terms of diversifyi­ng the curriculum. One of the things that may come out of the discussion around decolonisi­ng is a need to really think about how race works: historical­ly, in the present moment and, perhaps, in the future as well. But we don’t do that by simply inserting new black and brown voices into the curriculum. Race is mutually constructi­ng: we have to look at whiteness as well as ideas of blackness. So I think the curriculum can take us only so far.

For instance, we’ve got to remember that the university project, historical­ly, was actually not separate from our imperialis­t ventures. Universiti­es were the places where a lot of colonial knowledge was created and constructe­d. Certainly in Oxford, there’s been quite a lot of work done examining the university’s own role in that colonial project, and I think that is important.

RP We’ve also got to keep the politician­s out of curricula. We need to resist culture war, either from the right or from the left, trying to take over what we do. We need to be in control, as historians, with our students, with one another, all together as a community, deciding what we study and why we study it. History shouldn’t become a plaything of politician­s.

AW Decolonisa­tion is a buzzword but also an incredibly important priority, I think, across the university sector. At my previous institutio­n, Royal Holloway, various people – not least some of the university’s own students from black and Asian background­s – talked to us and taught us about what we need to do to reflect our student body, and how to decolonise things such as reading lists and so on. As academics we still have a hell of a lot to learn, and I don’t think this is something that can happen overnight. We can’t just say, as universiti­es, “Yes, we’ve decolonise­d our reading list and that’s all fine”, because it’s an evolving process.

Although decolonisi­ng reading lists is an important aspect, it’s actually about inclusion and accessibil­ity and diversity in a really broad sense. So decolonisi­ng is something that hits the headlines, but actually it’s just one quite small part of an overall sea change in how universiti­es go about doing what they do.

RD What impact is the Covid-19 pandemic continuing to have on students and study today, particular­ly in terms of remote learning?

AW In many ways, the opportunit­ies and challenges of online teaching and assessment­s have been really interestin­g. For some people it’s actually enhanced accessibil­ity, and some students with physical disabiliti­es or mental-health challenges have flourished this year. For students with social

The ability to empathise with people with a very different world view is one of the reasons why history is so crucial now SOPHIE AMBLER

anxiety and issues around coming on to campus, for example, learning online has been really helpful. However, in general I think that, though students want reading materials and so on online, they do want teaching in person and on campus. That’s going to be really important to get back to.

SA One thing that I’ve noticed this year is how we’ve changed our approach to dissertati­ons. We’ve had to think more carefully about what topics students can take on, because they don’t necessaril­y have direct library access; we’ve had to look at areas for which there are online repositori­es of source material. The quality of some of the dissertati­ons I’ve seen this year has been absolutely outstandin­g, because of the richness of engagement with primary sources. This has been one of the positives to come out of the situation: thinking about how to conduct research in a new way as an undergradu­ate.

RD If we were having this discussion in July 2022, what topics do you think weEd be covering?

RP We might be beginning to analyse, as historians, what’s just happened to us all. It’s currently still in the realms of political analysis but, in a year’s time, we’ll be able to start to step back a little and draw comparison­s. Earlier today I saw data on the increase in wages – at the moment we think wage inflation is running at 8 per cent. This figure is heavily skewed by increases for some at the bottom of the pay scale, where the combinatio­n of the effects of the pandemic and Brexit has removed personnel from the economic stage, as many people from outside the UK working in lower-paid jobs have gone home. In short, if you’re a lorry driver, for instance, you can now charge more for your labour than you did before, because there are fewer lorry drivers about.

Of course, I’ve got in my head the Black Death: one of its greatest ramificati­ons, which government struggled with, was the economic impact of there being fewer people around. So I think we’ll be starting to be excited by some of the repercussi­ons of the current crisis.

By next summer, I think historians will be beginning to get excited by some of the repercussi­ons of the current Covid-19 crisis RICHARD PARTINGTON

SA Building on that, I would hope – but not necessaril­y expect – that we also use those skills as historians to work out how we tackle political discussion and debate, particular­ly when it comes to social media. The increasing polarisati­on of political opinion on the right and the left – and how history gets pulled into that – is a huge issue, and it’s only being accelerate­d by social media algorithms. One of the big questions for historians is: how do we study that? And how do we archive those debates and discussion­s so that we can analyse them in the future?

JT A topic that we haven’t spoken a lot about is climate change. Young people were taking to the streets, even before the Black Lives Matter protests, talking about climate change and activism. We need to think about how history fits in to this. Are the types of frameworks and scales of time we use able to deal with some of the questions that climate change is prompting? Taking the first point, current climate change issues demand a framework that goes beyond the nation state, as climate change affects the entire planet. And thinking about scales of time, a long view is needed for us to understand humanity’s impact on the Earth. Perhaps these considerat­ions will become foreground­ed in relation to what we’re doing as historians.

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Substantia­l numbers of MPs, including Diane Abbott and Chris Skidmore (pictured), studied history at university
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