Carmarthen Journal

I was the same person but people expected me to be different overnight

He won 100 caps as one of Wales’ most successful rugby stars – but coming out remains Gareth Thomas’ biggest career achievemen­t, he tells

- LIZ CONNOR

RETIRED rugby star Gareth Thomas is a sporting legend, not just for once being the most-capped Welsh player on the pitch, but for his work advocating for LGBTQ+ rights.

The 47-year-old made history when he became the first openly gay rugby union player in 2009, facing a media frenzy at a time when there was scant recognitio­n of diverse sexualitie­s and identities in sport.

In 2019, he revealed he is HIV positive, and has been tirelessly campaignin­g to end the stigma around the condition ever since.

We spoke to the former Welsh captain about life after rugby, and why representa­tion in sport matters...

Looking back, what’s been your proudest career moment to date?

Now I’m outside of the game, I can really take stock of it, because it isn’t everything to me now. I look back and think my proudest career moment was when I felt I could finally be authentic, and still continue to play rugby – a career and life-defining moment for me.

It would be easy to say, ‘The first time that I capped for Wales’, and people would probably expect that, but my (biggest) personal achievemen­t is just having the ability and support network to be myself and still walk on the rugby field.

Was it difficult to come out as gay at the time?

Society is far from perfect, but it is definitely in a different place than it was 10 or 15 years ago. I was in a team sport, which means you have to compromise, adjust and fit in with the people around you.

It was at a time when nobody in rugby, and nobody since – at the level I was playing at – had done it before.

There wasn’t understand­ing or knowledge. There wasn’t an environmen­t of myself or anyone else knowing what was going to happen. I’ll be honest, it angered me. It p ***** me off, because the knowledge should have been in place already.

I was very fearful. Even though I thrived on fear as a rugby player, what I didn’t want was everything I’d worked so hard for to all of a sudden become irrelevant.

I might be a person that has great ability, a good sense of humour and great values, but people could say, ‘We’re gonna ignore that from now on and we’re gonna focus on that one thing’. The fear for me, my teammates and my family was huge.

Was there support for you in the rugby world at the time?

Things were very reactive. I’d face a torrent of abuse and then things would be put in place. Organisati­ons say they’re ready for diversity and inclusion, but when someone becomes very diverse in a non-diverse environmen­t, people realise it’s nowhere near where it needs to be.

I never made my announceme­nt to be a trailblaze­r. I did it because sometimes you have to look after yourself and be quite selfish, because you want to continue to live.

By making that decision, it made people aware that what was there wasn’t actually preventing what they were trying to prevent.

Did you feel pressure not to talk about your sexuality in the months leading up to the announceme­nt?

Oh yeah. I think as a society, we create the stereotype of what we expect. When you’re not that stereotypi­cal version and you have to break the mould, it raises eyebrows.

Through ignorance, people become abusive. It became difficult because I was the same person, but I just spoke about something that was always a part of me. People expected me to be completely different overnight, but the rugby player hadn’t changed at all.

There’s this idea that people always fight for things because they want to be celebrated for it, but it’s not that. Sometimes they just want to be able to be the person they really are and be treated equally.

Is it frustratin­g that when you’re a gay person in the public eye, people automatica­lly think you want to be an outspoken activist?

If someone spoke about sexuality in the world of football, I guarantee my phone would be red-hot. Tom Daley’s would probably also be redhot.

As a reader or viewer, I’d rather hear the views of a heterosexu­al footballer, like Alan Shearer, or Gary Lineker. People know what my views are. I’m passionate and will fight tooth and nail for equality for everybody, but we need to start changing the voices in these conversati­ons.

Talking about lived experience is always going to be powerful, but we need to hear from a diverse range of voices because that’s what people are going to listen to. There would be so many non-gay footballer­s who would support a gay footballer speaking about his sexuality, yet nobody seems to find that a point of interest.

Do you think things have changed over the past decade when it comes to openly talking about sexuality?

Yes, and things are progressin­g, but discrimina­tion hasn’t gone away.

Around 6% of the population is gay, but if you only have one openly gay person in a sport of around 500 or 600 people, something’s not adding up. It’s also still illegal to be gay in 69 countries in the world, so we can sit here and say everything’s fine but there’s still a way to go.

There’s so much work to be done on all levels, to create an environmen­t where people can have the ability to be authentic and play sport.

HIV is a manageable virus you can live with, and doesn’t stop you from achieving anything.

Do you feel proud about playing a part in ending HIV stigma?

We’ve still got a really long way to go with ending the stigma. I block around 30 people a day on social media, who send a message that’s something to do with my HIV status.

I’m extremely passionate about creating an environmen­t where the misunderst­anding around HIV is no longer relevant.

HIV is not a virus that can kill you, if you get tested and take medication. You can live a long, happy and healthy life. Lots of people still don’t know that. It’s really important that we eradicate this fear for everybody.

Another thing I’m passionate about getting across to people, is that this isn’t just a virus that affects black African men or women or gay men. It affects everybody.

So much informatio­n was given (during the AIDS crisis) in the 1980s, but not much has been given since, and we need to catch up with the progress of the last 20 years of medicine.

HIV is now a manageable virus you can live with, and doesn’t stop you from achieving anything.

Gareth Thomas is an ambassador for small business insurance provider Simply Business’ Business Boost campaign – helping the selfemploy­ed start, grow or revive their business with a £25,000 grant. Visit simplybusi­ness.co.uk

 ?? ?? Former Welsh internatio­nal rugby player, Gareth Thomas campaigns for equality for everyone in sport
Former Welsh internatio­nal rugby player, Gareth Thomas campaigns for equality for everyone in sport
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 ?? ?? Gareth Thomas in action during a 6 Nations match
Gareth Thomas in action during a 6 Nations match

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