Closer (UK)

‘Our minds have to be endlessly inventive’

Steve Pemberton and Reece Shearsmith’s darkly twisted tales return to BBC2 for a star-studded new series…

- By Lily Smith

What can we expect from series five? STEVE, 52: I’d say it’s the most varied season we’ve done.

REECE, 50: I hope so, yeah. I was away when series four went out so I didn’t see it, but I think more people were watching it. Hopefully for series five we’ve managed to create an intriguing collection of stories that are enjoyable and surprising to watch.

STEVE: We were blessed in having the 1-3 box-set go on

BBC iPlayer and that was a huge wake-up call because people started recommendi­ng it, and word-of-mouth played a huge part. It became a bigger thing… Episode one is set in a referee’s changing room…

STEVE: It’s a space that probably most of us don’t think about very often, but it just struck us as a really interestin­g idea to set an episode there. I’m amazed at how much we packed into 30 minutes. REECE: On paper, as a non-kind of football fan, that was the one I was least looking forward to but actually it’s a really rich episode with so much going for it.

Where do the ideas come from? STEVE: We start with shuffling through the old books and seeing if there are any scraps that we talked about but didn’t necessaril­y go with. Sometimes, an idea is great – but if it’s too similar to one you’ve already written you’ll bank it for a future episode as you don’t want too much of the same flavour in one series.

REECE: We always start with a lot of talking. There’s always a story lurking somewhere. Small ideas that we had ages ago can often return bearing fruit – but it gets harder because we’ve already done so much. You just have to have an endlessly inventive, fertile mind.

Last year’s live episode was a huge hit – would you do another one?

REECE: I don’t think we would, just because people would compare them or say we’ve run out of ideas. We try to stay unpredicta­ble, which gets harder because people expect our funny little games. The biggest challenge with the Halloween Special was keeping what we were really going to do a secret. But we were very careful and no one who knew wanted to spoil it.

Do your celeb pals approach you and ask to be in it?

REECE: I mean, Dave Morrissey has been saying to us for ages that he would love to be involved, and interestin­gly with his episode it’s one of only two we’ve done which are all-male casts. All the guest actors have been great. Some of them we know already; others we have just admired from afar. Acting has to be fun and people are entering a positive workplace. Everyone just wants to go the extra mile, and it helps when people recognise they’re working on something good.

Do you have a favourite episode? REECE: It’s like choosing a favourite child! I can’t choose.

I’m surprised that Bernie

Clifton’s Dressing Room took such a grip on people. We thought it was good but we didn’t think it was this amazing, heartfelt story…

STEVE: There are loads I’m really proud of, but I’m very proud of it as a whole body of work. Each day I have a different favourite.

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