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Seeıng A parent Cry most ıs THE paınful thıng

Taking his mother to the place her ancestors died for a new Holocaust documentar­y was the most intense experience of TV judge Rob Rinder’s life

- Jenny Johnston My Family, The Holocaust And Me With Robert Rinder, Monday, 9pm, BBC1.

Every Jewish grandparen­t knows what it is to ‘kvell’. It means to delight in and praise a loved one’s success, and barrister Robert Rinder, best known as ITV’S Judge Rinder and for his whirl on Strictly four years ago, reckons his path through life has been all the more joyous thanks to four adoring grandparen­ts – that’s a lot of kvelling.

‘I was immersed in, saturated with, some may say asphyxiate­d by, the full force of Jewish grandmothe­rly unconditio­nal love,’ says Robert, 42. ‘Remember Beattie, the character Maureen Lipman played in those BT adverts? She was nothing compared to my grandmothe­rs. I could do no wrong. There is no poetic way of saying this, but I could do something dubious on the floor in front of them and they’d call it art.’

His life was infinitely shaped by his grandparen­ts, who celebrated his successes – whether it be in the courtroom or when he ‘went all jazz-hands’ (his words) on Strictly in 2016. Both sides of his family have always been eternal optimists, determined to see goodness and positivity, he says.

Robert visited his paternal grandfathe­r, then 91, in east London before he headed off on a rather epic filming trip for a his new documentar­y last year. ‘Pappa Harry greeted me, as he always did, by asking,

“What good news, son?”’

He wanted his grandfathe­r’s blessing for the journey he was about to go on: to discover what happened to his paternal ancestors who came from Lithuania. They both knew, vaguely, what had happened (their fate had been the same as six million other Jews), but Pappa Harry joked that Rob might discover they were descended from Russian royalty, which made his grandson laugh. ‘He always made me laugh,’ says Rob.

The past tense is significan­t. Robert’s grandfathe­r died in April after contractin­g Covid. He lived long enough for Robert to return from his filming trip, however. ‘And he saw the film, for which I am so grateful. He wanted to live long enough to see that, and I’m so glad he did.’

What a film, too. My Family, The Holocaust And Me (a two-part series on BBC1) is, in some ways, a continuati­on. In 2018 Robert went on BBC genealogy show Who Do You Think You Are?, exploring the story of his maternal grandfathe­r, Polishborn Morris Malinicky, who was the only member of his immediate family to survive the Holocaust. Morris’s parents and five siblings were killed in the Nazi death camps, and Morris was one of 300 orphaned refugee children who were offered sanctuary and a new life in the

Lake District.

The episode received eight million viewers and won a BAFTA, and Robert has now teamed up with the producer who made it to tell the stories of other families, including former Emmerdale actress Louisa Clein, and delve into the secrets of his own family.

Robert travelled to the exterminat­ion camp Treblinka, near Warsaw in Poland, where Morris’s family was wiped out. He took his mother, who wanted to say the Kaddish, the Jewish prayer for the dead, where her ancestors had died. Rob says it was one of his most profound experience­s. ‘It’s perhaps the most painful thing in the world to see a parent cry,’ he says. ‘On the way home we couldn’t speak.’

He also explored his paternal history, going to Belarus to discover what had happened to his beloved Pappa Harry’s family. This journey ended at a mound of earth outside the village of Voranava, site of a massacre. There are still eye-witnesses to that awful day, where those who were to perish were conscripte­d to dig the trenches into which their bodies would fall. Robert’s threetimes great-grandfathe­r and his twotimes great-grandfathe­r’s brother were among the dead.

Robert, one of the most eloquent voices on our screens, struggles to find the words to describe this one. ‘I spoke to an old lady who had been a witness. She watched these men, women and children be marched through the town, lined up and shot. They were in the mass grave, some not even dead, when the next line of people went in on top. She spoke of the earth moving. Even after four days, the earth was still moving. Standing there was one of the most intense experience­s of my life. It was just a piece of earth, but it was somehow the most articulate expression of human evil I’ve ever come close to.’

Robert speaks Russian, and jokes that he requested a Russianspe­aking partner for Strictly so that even if he was rubbish he could improve his language skills ‘and maybe talk Pushkin. It didn’t work. One day my Russian-speaking partner Oksana and I cut through Highgate Cemetery so I took her to the grave of Karl Marx. She said, “Was he a dancer?”’

The documentar­y shows him comforting the old woman who’d seen the shooting in Russian. ‘I had

‘After four days, the earth in the mass grave was still moving’

to consult with the translator when we went through the records from that day. I heard the figure 1,800, referring to the number of victims. I thought my language skills were letting me down.’ It will surprise many that massacres of this scale happened in towns and villages, rather than behind barbed-wire fences. ‘The death camps were almost created to make the act of mass killing more humane – because of the psychologi­cal toll it was taking on the killers,’ says Robert.

It might surprise many too to discover that someone like him can find so many hideous Holocaust stories in his own family tree. ‘It’s not at all unusual to find these stories on both sides of the family,’ he says sadly.

That families like his are still discoverin­g exactly what happened (and, more accurately, are still questionin­g what happened) is significan­t, he says. ‘For too long there was a culture of silence. Families didn’t want to delve there, but I think we have a responsibi­lity to.’

The film has a stark message: the mound of earth he was standing by was ‘not the only mound like this in the world,’ he says. ‘And maybe there will be others in the future. We have a responsibi­lity to bear witness.’

It’s tricky to shift on to lighter topics, but Robert makes it easy. When he was a practising barrister (he now only acts in an advisory role), his work involved the heaviest of topics: internatio­nal money laundering, fraud, war crimes. ‘We’d have been unlikely to meet, unless you were a war criminal,’ he jokes, lightening the mood.

His progressio­n from barrister to Strictly star was very quick. ‘One day I was making applicatio­ns in The Hague for internatio­nal arrest warrants, and two years later I was wearing Lederhosen, doing the Viennese Waltz.’ The key to his new media career was Judge Rinder. At a chance meeting with a TV executive, Robert suggested a British Judge Judy, with himself at the helm. Some are sneery about the show and, to be fair, some of the disputes are giggleindu­cing (like the woman complainin­g that the contents of her handbag had been eaten by a goat), but he defends it. ‘A few may have a veneer of pantomime, but others will be about someone losing their house, not having child maintenanc­e paid. Subjects people should have access to legal advice for.’

He became a sudden star, but he says fame came at an age where he was able to take it with a pinch of salt. ‘I remember having come from doing very serious and challengin­g work – an internatio­nal inquiry at a very senior level – where expecting someone to make me a cup of tea would have been unthinkabl­e. Then I came into Judge Rinder and all these wonderful young excited runners were asking me what coffee I wanted. I had to say to my producer, “If this carries on, I’ll be Kim Jong-un in a week.”’

He’s sharp, camp and hilarious. He did (no surprises) study drama before deciding on a law degree, but bailed out because a friend was so much better than he was. That friend was Benedict Cumberbatc­h, who later applied for a licence so that he could perform the ceremony when Robert married his then partner Seth Cumming. The marriage ended in 2018, however, and Rob is now single.

Ironically, he tells me that he’d love to be a matchmakin­g Cilla Black figure himself. He has history here too, and is terribly proud of the fact that his match-making skills have so far led to five weddings (in Jewish folklore, three gets him into Heaven, he jokes). One of his ‘brides’ is the actress Brooke Kinsella, who he paired up with his lawyer mate Simon Boardly.

Whatever he does next, his grandparen­ts would be proud, he says. His courtroom days saw him defending members of the fascist National Front party – did his grandparen­ts applaud this too? ‘Very much. My maternal grandfathe­r was passionate about free speech. He used to go to Speakers Corner and listen to anti-semitic bile, and he’d say, “In this country, a man can say what he wants.” It mattered to him. All my grandparen­ts had a generosity of spirit which I think comes from living in the presence of tyranny. We have to learn from them.’

 ??  ?? Robert with some family portraits photograph­ed exclusivel­y for weekend BY NICKY JOHNSTON
Robert with some family portraits photograph­ed exclusivel­y for weekend BY NICKY JOHNSTON
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Robert and his mother
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