Damning evidence caught by chance on dad’s phone

Allyn and Jenny Condon met Dr Paul Mannix (PM), Dr Margrid Schindler (MS) and manager Julie Vass (JV) to discuss their son’s death, Mr Condon put his phone on the table to record the conversation. The medical team used a dictaphone.

EVERYONE IS IN THE ROOM

MR CONDON: We’ve been lied to along the way, we’ve been misled with information.

MRS CONDON: We didn’t get told how he [Ben] died for seven weeks. It’s disgusting.

CONDONS LEAVE THE ROOM FOR A BREAK

PM: But Margrid, they are absolutely right.

MS: They’ve got a point. Erm...

PM: These are not bolshy... misinformed parents are they? The doctors then realise their dictaphone is still recording

MS: Is there any possibility of taking off that last...

JV: ...part of that? I’ll go back when we finish and take that out.

MS: I just forgot that it was still recording, erm, ’cause... that could get us into difficulty.

DR MANNIX REALISES THE CONDONS’ PHONE IS STILL RECORDING

PM (WHISPERS): This is recording.

JV: I don’t know how to do it without deleting the whole thing.

MS (speaking openly): The difficulty is though you know with infants and infection is that even if we had treated it earlier it’s not to guarantee that the outcome would have been different. Dr Mannix tries to muffle the Condons’ phone PM: I struggle to see why he wasn’t given antibiotics, if on the Tuesday they’ve said ‘If he gets worse give him some antibiotics’.

MR AND MRS CONDON RETURN

PM (holding their phone): I should have realised that this was on. I don’t know how to stop it. MRS CONDON: Is it saved? MR CONDON: I don’t know. PM: No, I didn’t touch any buttons, I just put my fingers over the microphone.