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The one lesson I’ve learned from life

- Joanna Scanlan Interview by LIZ HOGGARD

JOANNA, 58, is best known for her roles in The Thick Of It, Rev and No Offence. She was nominated for a BAfTA for NHS comedy Getting On. She is married to Neil, an accountant, and lives in London.

ALWAYS ASK FOR WHAT YOU WANT

I grew up in the middle-class society of the 1960s where children were seen and not heard (instead of asking for the butter, you waited for someone to offer it to you). Then the world I had been educated for, at my nicey-nicey girls’ boarding school, got washed away by the tides of the 1970s and 80s.

I was trained for a world that didn’t exist any more. It took me a long time to realise that I actively had to ask — and in a way which, to me, felt quite rude and vulgar — for things I wanted.

when I went to Queens’ College Cambridge, it was a brutalisin­g experience. It was the first year of women in our college (we were 39 women to 500 men), and none of what went on would be considered OK today. There was a sexually aggressive atmosphere: intimidati­ng, frightenin­g. But it was also that I was unprepared for it. I didn’t like being the target of men’s attention. I think I put on weight as a protective armour.

I joined Footlights [the comedy troupe whose alumni include Stephen Fry and emma Thompson]. After college I had a lot of failed auditions, so I became a drama lecturer, then worked at the Arts Council. But I longed to act.

I had a breakdown at 29 triggered by work stress and went back to live with my parents in wales. Some days all I could do was walk the dog. But then the gP told me: ‘If you don’t go back to acting, you’ll be ill for the rest of your life.’

I had to go through the most ignominiou­s and embarrassi­ng thing of ringing up acquaintan­ces and saying: ‘Actually I’d like to start to be a profession­al actress. Do you have a job for me?’

And two of them came back saying: ‘Yes, funnily enough, I might have.’ I got two jobs out of those phone calls.

There is a perception that things should be offered to you if you are worthy of them. But it’s perfectly OK to say: ‘I’ve got a hunch I might be good at this, please can I put it to you?’

As a woman, it’s easy to err on the side of modesty. But you can be open and honest without being bigheaded. You have the right to ask for what you want. If you don’t put your own agenda on the table, you’re unlikely to have it met.

JOANNA SCANLAN is a judge for the Comedy Women In Print Prize (comedywome­ninprint.co.uk).

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