WE WANT TO GET MARRIED EVERY YEAR
The reality royalty tell Katie Holloway why staying in with baby Theodore will always beat a night out
When we sit down to chat to Vogue Williams, 34, and Spencer Matthews, 31, the first thing Vogue says is, “Spenny, shall we get him up from his nap?” We mentally punch our fist in the air – we’re going to be lucky enough to meet the true star of the show: Theodore Frederick Michael Matthews.
“The Pigly Wig” as he’s affectionately known (more on Theodore’s nicknames later) is a little bemused by our interview, but Spencer tells us he loves the cameras when the family film their reality show, now going into its second series. Spencer, Vogue And Wedding Two does exactly what it says on the tin – as well as following the family while they go about their lives, viewers are invited along to see them celebrate their “wedding party” with all the friends who weren’t invited to their intimate ceremony last year.
Vogue and Spencer may be disarmingly attractive, but what you see really is what you get. Interviewing the couple is like watching an episode of their hilarious show, and we could quite easily sit back with some popcorn and watch them for hours…
How did you find filming again?
Vogue: We were just surprised it took them so long to recommission us! It was kind of normal getting back into it. We have a crew that we really like, so you’re surrounded by people that you’d choose to hang out with anyway, so it wasn’t too hard getting back into it. Maybe for Spencer, because he’s not as professional as me. Spencer: I’d kind of moved on from it. I’d hung up my boots and retired from television and then it came out of the woodwork again, so I decided to give it a second crack. What can we expect from this series? S: It’s more of the same really – light-hearted humour and a bit of self-deprecation. V: There’s an awful lot happening. We had a really busy summer, so I’d say they’ll be delighted they actually caught us when we had so much going on.
‘I can’t think of anything worse than clubbing now’ Spencer
S: I think a lot of reality TV feels extremely structured – especially those shows that have been going for a long time – and with this, it’s just super-organic. It flows with what we’re actually getting up to, which makes it really easy for us to film, because we’re not having to “get in character”, as such. Obviously “wedding two” is the main event – how was it? V: It was more like the second day of a wedding. We wanted it to just be a big party, because we didn’t have any of our friends at the first wedding, just family. It was the best day. I can’t recommend doing that [having a family-only wedding] more. Firstly, you’re not going to spend an absolute fortune. Secondly, it’s nice to have a tight knit group of people, because we got to spend time with each other and it was perfect. Obviously, our friends didn’t think it was perfect, as they weren’t invited. How many people came to the second wedding party? V: Seventy? S: Seventy or 80… 75 of whom were Vogue’s mates. I honestly invited about three people – I didn’t even tell my family. V: Family weren’t really invited to this one, to be fair. S: Your family all came! V: My mum came. I felt bad because she kept asking me about it, so I thought, “Oh God, we’ll have to invite her.” But it was actually meant to just be for friends. Had you always wanted Jamie Laing to officiate? S: I wouldn’t say that having Jamie officiate our wedding party was a lifelong dream, but it made sense, both for the show and for the lightheartedness we were trying to achieve. Obviously, Vogue and I had already been happily married for a year-and-a-half, so we thought, given that we were throwing a big wedding party for our mates, why not have one of our more vibrant pals officiate. Did he behave? S: He was absolutely fine. I think he felt like getting engaged just from being there. After a few Champagnes, there was talk of it. Was it a raucous affair? S: It was relatively raucous, I have to say – I mean, I don’t drink any more, so I got to witness everything. It was great. All of Vogue’s Irish friends were round ours until 6am afterwards. There were plenty of good vibes. Would you do it again in five years, and renew your vows? V: Five years? I’ll do it next year! S: Yeah, we’re going to get married every year – we’re setting a trend. V: We do like entertaining. I definitely want to do some kind of summer party every year. S: The things that we love the most are each other’s birthdays, Christmas, and our wedding, so why not get married every year? Theodore is such a little star – are you seeing his personality develop yet? V: He’s quite a boisterous baby. Just yesterday, I took him to [kids’ music class] Monkey Music, and he was going off and doing his own thing while all the other babies were just mesmerised. He’s got that showbiz streak… S: He loves the cameras. Whenever the film crew are there, he looks right down
the lens – he loves it. He takes after Mummy. Have you thought about siblings for him? V: Oh definitely! We want another baby, for sure. Hopefully there won’t be too much of a gap. S: We want a large family. How many? S: I want at least a five-a-side football team. V: I’d love four. Although, I always thought four, but then we were inviting a family with four kids to something we were having, and I was like, “They’ve just taken up six spaces, I’m never inviting them again.” But, then again, we don’t like going to things, so we’d quite like it if no one invited us anywhere. Theodore has some great nicknames. Can you give us a rundown of them… V: The Pigly Wig, Piggles… S: T-bomb, TT, Audi TT, The Piglet… V: Beef… S: Beef Taco, Beef Burrito, Lamb Chop, Pork Chop, Pork Ribs… anything, really. Oh, and Tony. I call him Tony.
v: When he has his little white vest on. S: Yeah, in his white vest, he looks like Tony Soprano, so I call him Tony. He’s probably a bit confused – he doesn’t really know which name to answer to. Are you excited for him to enjoy Christmas this year, now he’s a bit more aware of what’s going on? v: I don’t think he’ll be too aware this year, maybe next year. S: I personally thought he was extremely ungrateful on our holiday to St Barts last year, so I’m looking forward to the day that he understands that he’s been given a lovely ride. At the moment, he’s a bit blasé, but I’m sure he’ll develop a sense of what’s normal. in the show, we see you enjoying a date night – do you get to do that a lot? v: We don’t get to go out that much, but we are going to do more, for sure. S: Genuinely, our favourite thing to do is to just be at home with each other. I couldn’t think of anything that I’d rather do. No party, no event, no birthday, no wedding could change that for me. Whenever I’ve got a long day working, I’m always thinking about putting my feet up with Teddy at home. And Vogue’s similar. v: We like to go out for dinner and stuff, but I wouldn’t go to a nightclub now. S: A nightclub? F**king hell. I’d be the oldest bloke in there. I couldn’t think of anything worse. Some of my mates still go clubbing. I’m like, “Do you know that everyone in there is 17? You are 30-plus. You’re nearly twice as old as everyone in there!” It’s just weird. I remember I used to go clubbing when I was 16 or 17, and you’d see that random 30 year old and be like, “What. A. Dick.” v: Thirty’s not old. S: To be in a nightclub, 30 is very old, unless you own the place. You’re pretty chilled – is any topic off-limits on the show? S: Vogue loves it when we talk about sex… v: I cannot bear it. S: That’s my go-to gag. If we’re having a little scene, I’ll just flip it into sex chat, because I know they’ll probably use it. v: Can you stop turning interviews into sex chat, too? S: And it makes my wife uncomfortable, which is always fun. With a woman of her confidence, it’s always amusing to see her cowering. You say you’re “top of the Z list”. Do you enjoy taking the piss out of yourselves? S: If you’re in reality television and you take yourself seriously, there’s something wrong with you. v: And I genuinely think we are top of the Z list. S: We are definitely top of the Z list. But, for me, it goes A, B, Z… You can call it C list if you want, but I prefer Z. It sounds cooler. You met on reality show the Jump… S: Who won The Jump again? we can’t remember… v: Neither can I… S: Oh, I can. It was me. I beat Louis Smith in a jump off – he’s an Olympic gymnast, an athlete, so cheers. Are there any other reality shows you’d do together? S: That I haven’t already done? v: Spenny has none left. I would struggle doing the ones where you have to go away now, because I wouldn’t want to leave Theodore for a week without any contact. I don’t think I’ll be doing any of those for a while, unless I could stay at home. S: I considered doing SAS: Who Dares Wins, but I honestly think it would be a waste of time, because it would be too easy. we’d love to see that… S: I was actually going to do it last year, but it clashed with our show. I’ll do it at some point. I’d like to, just to prove a point to everyone that I’m unbreakable. n
Spencer, Vogue And Wedding Two starts on E4, 21 October, 10pm