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“You think ‘yeah, that’s what life is’. And I was wowed by how they looked after each other, which I thought was incredible, and how much they wanted each other to do well, in a way you wouldn’t have got on an adult quiz.
“It was really lovely; there was a sense that they’d found their people.”
Aside from the sheer intelligence on show from the kids, the parentchild relationships involved are also fascinating, particularly who’s pushing who to compete.
“Most of the parents are taken aback that their child is so clever, and they’re along for the ride. I find that very funny. It’s charming – and the kids have put themselves forward,” explains Richard.
“There are some family units where it’s like, ‘I can tell you all share the same genes because, mum, you’re desperate to win; dad, you’re desperate to win; child, you’re desperate to win’, and you can see them geeing each other up.
“You think, ‘Blimey, that’s an unusual atmosphere’, but there’s a million different ways to bring up your kids, that’s the truth – there’s a million different ways to be successful and happy.”
Richard doesn’t consider himself remotely pushy (“unless wanting your child to be happy is pushiness”) and says that when it comes to his two children, “you can’t tell them to go to bed, let alone take part in a competitive TV quiz”.
However, he doesn’t think kids being under pressure to perform, on telly or otherwise, is necessarily a cause for concern.
“Sometimes we think you mustn’t ever put children under any pressure whatsoever, but kids are much more resilient than adults. Every child on this show is competitive – I don’t think that’s a bad thing.”
Richard is as obsessed with sport as he is with quizzes, and, as far as he’s concerned, quizzes are sport – it’s just “competitive question answering”. He says: “I loved taking part in things (at school). I was always rubbish at football, but I was OK at quizzes.”
In fact, he’s built a career on them, from producing 8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown in his day job as creative director at TV production company Endemol, to co-hosting tea-time BBC quiz show Pointless with Alexander Armstrong.
The duo were contemporaries while students at Cambridge, but only got to know one another once they’d both graduated and were working in TV.
“We’re both quite different as human beings, but we’re both quite amateurish. Neither of us is slick, and we both really, really like making each other laugh, and that’s key.”
Richard adds that, despite the huge amount of time they spend together (the Pointless filming schedule is gruelling), they’ve “never had an argument, never even a cross word”.
“I endlessly take the mick out of him, I endlessly tell him (actor and comedian – and Alexander’s former comedy partner) Ben Miller’s more talented than him – I’m horrible to him all the time, but he takes it all in good part. I adore him.”
Richard adores Pointless too, even though he doesn’t take in much of the knowledge the duo dispenses. “I think ‘I must be learning stuff, I must be getting cleverer’, but I don’t – I think my brain got full at about 38, and nothing else has gone in since.”
However, even though many people think it’s all he does, he admits with a laugh that he couldn’t “live a life just doing Pointless, I need other things”.
As a producer it’s his job to “watch too much telly” – this year he’s been addicted to Line Of Duty, Ant And Dec’s Saturday Night Takeaway, The Repair Shop and Gogglebox, of which he says he thought from the first episode: “This is going to run forever – as a producer I did have a twinge of jealousy.”
Richard’s adamant, however, that all he’s focused on next is getting “on with the day job, sitting in my office coming up with TV shows and enjoying that, and trying not to be on TV all the time”.
We’ve still got our hopes up for the World Cup Of Sweets though.