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MEET KASSA OVERALL: VIRTUOSO DRUMMER, RAP CONFESSOR, BACKPACK JAZZ PRODUCER!

- Andy Cowan

KASSA OVERALL can pinpoint the exact moment he gambled on a solo career. “In January 2017 I stopped drinking and booked some time at Strange Weather Studios,” says the 40-year-old from his garden shed in Seattle, a space rammed with keyboards, drums and recording ephemera. “I wanted to make an album that mixed my jazz background with my production and hip-hop background. I’d never mixed the worlds together – it was almost like my profession­al thing and my just-for-fun thing. After that session I knew I had something.”

The son of an ethnomusic­ologist mother and saxophonis­t father, by his teens Overall was drumming profession­ally at jazz shows, expressing his hip-hop skills on the side by rapping over OutKast instrument­als. After studying jazz drums and music theory at Oberlin Conservato­ry under Billy Hart (part of Herbie Hancock’s Mwandishi), Overall became a fixture on New York’s jazz circuit, playing with Ravi Coltrane, Geri Allen and Jon Batiste, but in 2019 he emailed his bandleader­s. “I said I wouldn’t be available to tour as I was putting out an album and needed room to let it cook.”

Overall’s uninhibite­d approach bypassed previous jazz/rap fusions on that year’s debut

Go Get Ice Cream And Listen To Jazz. Armed with just a laptop, an audio interface and a microphone, the self-styled ‘backpack jazz producer’ biked around NYC to record collaborat­ions he would chop up and reconstruc­t later.

Overall’s star really started to rise with 2020 follow-up I Think I’m Good, with confession­als touching on his own mental health struggles. “I was expressing what got me to where I am and getting comfortabl­e sharing that. It was a therapeuti­c process.”

With its trippy sound collages and fractal soundscape­s, new LP Animals is Overall’s most sure-footed yet. “Everybody else had to deal with these mental health questions with Covid, so this album is more outward – not so much about me in my head, but me against the world.” Not that its gestation was easy. “The process is kinda absurd,” he says, waving one of several hard-drives of unused material in the air. “I make so much stuff, but it takes a long, long time to get it to sound right. When I make an album it’s like a movie – not so much a collection of songs but a whole story that fits together.” Edited with an auteur’s technical surety, guests including Laura Mvula, Danny Brown and Vijay Iyer help flesh-out miniatures that invariably contain multitudes.

“There’s a lot of great music today, but so much is retro,” Overall says, “it takes a lot of work to do something innovative.

But if you build your own unique house, it’s never going to go out of style.”

“This album is not so much about me in my head, but me against the world.” KASSA OVERALL

 ?? ?? “It takes a lot of work to do something innovative”: Kassa Overall takes hip-hop/jazz to another level.
“It takes a lot of work to do something innovative”: Kassa Overall takes hip-hop/jazz to another level.

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