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MAGNETO MAGIC

If your magneto-equipped old motorcycle fails to achieve ignition, then something might be amiss in the current-generating dept. Stuart Francis attempts to appease the god of sparks, and outlines some common faults and quick fixes

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If your magneto-equipped old motorcycle fails to achieve ignition, then something might be amiss in the current-generating dept. Stuart Francis attempts to appease the god of sparks, and outlines some common faults and quick fixes

At most motorcycle rallies you’ll find a group of riders trying to coax a spark from a machine’s reluctant magneto. I’ve been there a few times myself and sympathise with them. The endless kicking, running and bumping – or being pushed – result in a couple of tantalisin­g ignitions, while pints of sweat pour down the inside of your waterproof­s. It can test anyone’s patience. There are also more subtle magneto-related problems: the bike feels like it is running out of petrol (but isn’t), it misfires on wide throttle openings, hesitates on sharp throttle openings or refuses to start when hot which

might indicate a weak spark. There are four main types of motorcycle magnetos:

fixed magnet, fixed HT coil and switched magnetic field (Dixie or Splitdorf )

fixed magnet and rotating HT coil (BT-H or Lucas)

rotating magnet and fixed HT coil (Lucas SR or PAL)

rotating magnet and fixed separate HT coil (Energy Transfer Systems)

They all rely on a coil of wire moving through a magnetic field to produce an electrical current. The stronger the magnetic field or the faster the coil moves through the magnetic field, the bigger the current and the bigger the eventual spark. Motorcycle magnetos produce relatively low voltage and current sparks (12 to 18 thousand Volts) compared to a good coil ignition system (20 to 30 thousand Volts) or some modern car systems that produce very high voltages and currents (50 thousand Volts). High currents and voltages are very useful for

burning off spark plug deposits and igniting weak mixtures.

Motorcycle magnetos have another handicap. When being kicked over, the coils pass through the magnetic field at a relatively slow speed and produce a low initial current. So to produce a spark at slow speed, the magneto must be in good condition. My hints and tips have been learned through bitter experience – they might help restore the performanc­e of your wilting magneto or get you home. I can’t claim this is a definitive list of potential problems or solutions, just my 45 years’ experience of working on motorcycle magnetos. Do you have any other fixes you would add to the list?

SPARKPLUGS

There are two main issues with modern spark plugs. First, they come set for modern ignition systems, usually at around 35 thou, and secondly they can come with built-in suppressor­s (see below). The recommende­d spark plug gaps for most magnetos (when new) were between 20 to 25 thou. The gap can be closed down even further if you are having problems: I once ran a 10 thou spark plug gap for several weeks on a particular­ly tired magneto. If you are stuck without a feeler gauge the thickness of your thumbnail is a good start point.

SUPPRESSOR CAPS

Most motorcycle magnetos were never designed to run with suppressor­s. Spark plug or plug cap suppressor­s are carbon resistors which reduce voltage and current at the sparkplug gap. Throw them away!

HT LEADS

Always use solid copper HT lead, preferably those with the two layers of insulation. Some modern HT leads have a carbon string-like core that acts as a suppressor, and these can kill a magneto spark stone dead. Have a good look at the routing of the HT cable for rubbing or touching hot bits. I once finished up stranded in the central reservatio­n of a busy motorway after an HT lead had melted on a cylinder head fin…

LEAD CONNECTION­S

Lucas, among others, used threaded plastic sleeves and an unusual split copper washer to connect the HT lead to the pick-up. A rubber boot covers the HT lead and pick- up, with a similar arrangemen­t at the sparkplug cap. Over time the rubber boots start cracking or go missing, allowing oil and water to accumulate in the pick-up, killing the spark. Vibration can also cause the copper wire to work harden, fatigue and break.

HT PICK-UPS

Problems usually fall into three main areas: tracking, contaminat­ion and brushes. Over time the hard plastic pick-up bodies can develop small cracks which allow the sparks to leak to the nearest metal fitting, usually the retaining clip or screw. The nose of the pick-up gradually accumulate­s carbon dust and oil, creating a conductive mixture. This can be particular­ly bad on flange mounted magnetos when their oil seals begin to wear. Give the pick-ups a good clean with brake cleaner. Check that the brush actually slides up and down in the holder: mis-sized pattern brushes can stick and debris can also cause stiction.

SLIP RINGS

These also suffer from tracking and contaminat­ion but have a couple of unique problems; damage and wear. It is not unusual to see chunks of plastic missing from the edge of the slip ring, caused by the safety screw(s) not being removed before the magneto was taken apart. The damage can usually be repaired with Araldite or by

fitting a new slip ring. There are two type of wear, electrical erosion (a small dip in the conductor) or rubbing wear caused by the brush or brush holder nose (if the brush holder fibre washer has not been fitted). Both can usually be polished out with emery cloth on a lathe. Always give it a good clean with brake cleaner.

CONTACT BREAKERS & CAM RINGS

Contact breaker points must be clean, flat and square to each other. Just running a bit of emery between the points is not good enough; you need to dress them properly. It will make a lot of difference – I use an old, diamond-faced nail file. Also check that all the insulating washers are there and that the contact breaker spring is not touching the cam ring at any point. Check the contact breaker assembly is sitting squarely in the end of the rotor, the alignment tang is in the armature slot and the end bolt is tight.

Cam rings on twin cylinder bikes can wear unevenly producing significan­t changes to the firing points; always check the fully advanced position on both cylinders and that the points gap is the same for both cylinders. I once built a twin cylinder Magdyno for a Scott from bits I had lying around. Although it produced a good spark, the engine never felt right. A check revealed a 20-degree difference between the two firing points.

MAGNETS

These gradually lose their magnetic field in a very slow process that reduces the size of the spark. Older horseshoe magnets are most affected, but it happens to them all eventually. If your magneto has not been re-magnetised in the last 25 years then it is about time to do it. Magnets also gradually lose their magnetic field as they get hotter. Always fit a keeper plate across the poles of the magnet if it is removed or the armature is removed.

BEARINGS

Magneto bearing wear can have an insidious effect on performanc­e. Any end float on the angular contact magneto bearings also results in side play, both of which can affect contact breaker opening. At slow speed there is a perceptibl­e time for the contract breakers to fully open. Any delay due to wear slows this process and weakens the spark; a very real problem with face-cam contact breakers. Most magnetos have thin shims which can be removed to correct end float. Also make sure that the paper insulators which the bearings sit in have not broken up or disappeare­d.

CAPACITORS

These are also known as ‘condensers’, and are fitted to increase spark voltage and to eliminate sparking at the points. A small amount of sparking at the points is not unusual, but continuous sparking usually means the capacitor needs replacing. Capacitors can be susceptibl­e to heat, so if the spark disappears when the magneto is hot it is possibly the capacitor. Rotating coil magnetos invariably have a capacitor buried in the armature, they are a pig to get at and are best replaced by an expert.

EARTHING BRUSHES

All rotating coil magnetos are fitted with an earth brush or contact. These are usually in

a separate spring-loaded holder (Lucas) or hidden at the back of the contact breaker plate (BT-H). Make sure they are there and can move in their holders and give them a good clean.

V-TWINS

Magnetos are always a compromise, usually producing a strong spark to one cylinder and a weaker one to the other. There’s not much you can do about it unless you can change the laws of physics or adopt the racing JAP approach of fitting two singlecyli­nder magnetos.

INSULATION

Early magnetos used a varnish called shellac (a secretion from the Indian lac bug now more commonly used in nail polish) to insulate the windings. Shellac gradually deteriorat­es, particular­ly when hot; sudden failures of the varnish locking up the magneto are not unknown. If you see a small tar-like mark on the inside of a rotating coil magneto it is time for a rewind. Modern insulating varnishes are very stable.

CUT-OUTS

Magneto cut-outs work by short-circuiting the contact breaker. If you have lost a spark, always try disconnect­ing the cut-out, as wiring defects and faulty switches can cause shorts to earth.

ADVANCE / RETARD

Magnetos have a sweet spot for generating the best spark, and a mechanical advance and retard mechanism changes the contact breaker opening around this point. This is usually achieved by moving the cam-ring or face-cam through about 15 degrees, giving 30 degrees of advance on a four-stroke. Make sure the cam is sitting properly on the pin that limits cam movement, that the cam actually moves smoothly through its full movement and the cable is properly adjusted.

AUTO ADVANCE UNIT

These have the advantage that the points are always opened at the sweet spot, giving the best spark. However they can bring their own problems, like sticky operation and advancing too early. Sticky operation is usually diagnosed after the kickstarte­r has tried to launch you over the handlebars because the mechanism is stuck at fully advanced! Advancing too early is a more subtle issue, usually diagnosed by unexpected pinking at slow engine speeds and is invariably due to ageing springs and wear in the mechanism.

OTHER MECHANICAL ISSUES

The drive to the magneto is usually through a gear or sprocket which sits on the tapered

end of the armature. It is not unknown for the drive gear or sprocket to slip on the shaft, so ruining the ignition timing. This is usually more of a problem with Magdynos (combined magneto and dynamo) because of the greater drive loads. Have a really good look at both tapers, and if they are at all marked then lap them together with grinding paste. An obscure problem I once encountere­d was a bent armature; it took some time before the penny dropped.

BITSAS

Be very wary of magnetos that somebody has put together from bits they had in the back of their shed. Magnetos are only usually taken apart in the first place because something was wrong with them. It is fairly easy to assemble what looks like a good magneto but which doesn’t work or produces an anaemic spark. The manufactur­ers made most parts physically interchang­eable so they could build different versions of the magnetos for right / left rotation, singles and twins, manual and automatic advance and retard, face cam and cam ring operation. These variants were usually built by changing the cam ring, cam ring housing and contact breaker assembly, leading to a distressin­g array of similar components that can easily be confused.

WEATHER PROTECTION

Early motorcycle manufactur­ers loved siting the magneto directly in front of the engine, just the spot to catch muck, manure and water thrown up by the front wheel or draining off the front mudguard. Some manufactur­ers attempted to protect them with covers and brims on the back of the mudguard. However it is not unusual to find these magnetos covered in a film of muck held in place by a fine mist of oil that always seems to be present. When damp, this film can make an excellent conductor for sparks. A good wash down with brake cleaner and a check of weather seals, like rubber boots and brush holder gaskets, can significan­tly reduce the possibilit­y of breaking down in bad weather.

COMPRESSIO­N RATIOS

Higher compressio­n ratios have a marked affect: denser mixtures require a stronger spark to jump the gap and ignite the mixture. A tired magneto on an old sidevalve will probably fire it up, but the same magneto on, say, a BSA Gold Star wouldn’t have a hope.

TESTING

A good magneto has a particular feel when rotated by hand. You should feel a definite drag just before the points open, then a little kick as the points open. You should be able to flick it over by hand and get a reasonable spark using a fresh spark plug. I run rebuilt magnetos on the milling machine for at least an hour to check for problems. If you are having problems with an intermitte­nt spark, run the machine in a dark corner of a garage and you might be surprised to see sparks leaking out!

 ?? Photos by Stuart Francis, Paul Miles ?? Searching for the spark?
Photos by Stuart Francis, Paul Miles Searching for the spark?
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A 1920s BT-H twin magneto from a Douglas, and a Douglas flat twin fitted with one just like it
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Common magnetos include BT-H flange mounted, Lucas SR1, early BT-H twin. Lucas face cam. Front row: advance and retard units; BT-H and Lucas
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The Magneto Graveyard
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Pictures above: Testing a Splitdorf magneto on the lathe, and an Indian fitted with one
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One of the most common set-ups for British singles was the Lucas Magdyno
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The Magdyno’s face cam and the manual advance / retard actuator
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The drive to the dynamo part of the combined unit
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Above Abo and left: The same marque can use magnetos ma from different suppliers. Two Velocettes, Vel one with a Lucas instrument and the other oth with a BT-H. Both are flange-mounted
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How’s this for a magneto testing rig?
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Lucas face cam magneto, and the points assembly. The points need a good clean…
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Praying to the God of Sparks!
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Lucas SR1 rotating magnet magneto, complete with a keeper sleeve
 ??  ?? Lucas rotating coil armatures. The lower one is from a Magdyno
Lucas rotating coil armatures. The lower one is from a Magdyno
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