South Wales Echo

People are starting to be aware of the populist right with Trump and Brexit

Paul Greengrass’s new film tells the story of Norway’s worst terrorist attack but the director tells LAURA HARDING that the tragedy also gives us insight into the global picture

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IN 2011, the right wing Anders Breivik carried out Norway’s deadliest terrorist attack, killing 69 teenagers at a youth camp on the island of Utoya.

After setting off a bomb in Oslo he disguised himself as a policeman and talked his way on to a ferry, claiming he was being sent there to protect the children he went on to kill.

The combined death toll for the Oslo and Utoya attacks was 77.

It is a bone-chilling start to Paul Greengrass’s new film 22 July, which examines the devastatio­n of the attacks, but also how the country came together in the aftermath.

And for the filmmaker, it’s an urgent story to tell.

“You’ve only got to look around the world, everywhere we look the hard right is on the rise,” he says.

“There’s a neo-Nazi party holding the balance of power in Sweden and in Austria, an extreme right-wing government in Italy, look at Tommy Robinson in the UK, Brexit, Trump, Steve Bannon.

“It’s important to make the point, that by and large they don’t agree with Breivik’s methods, but his opinions, which in 2011 were considered marginal are today mainstream.

“That argument that goes on about the betrayal by the elites, that’s all standard stuff.

“So I wanted to make a film that dramatised it because the story of how Norway had fought for her democracy is what the film is really about.

“It’s not about the attack, although the first chunk is, but the story of how

Norway fought for her democracy in the aftermath of the attacks is a story of today. It’s relevant to every country.”

He made the film working closely with the families of the victims, but what if they had said no?

“You don’t make it, it’s as simple as that,” he says firmly.

But they said yes. In fact they urged him to tell the story.

“They understand the issues,” he adds. “It’s us that doesn’t want to confront it because we don’t want to look at these things.

“Being the victim of these attacks, you know very well what the threat is and how it’s getting worse.

“I wouldn’t say we are failing to learn lessons, I just think that we’re in a period of immense turbulent change right now, where liberal democracy is seen as inexplicab­ly tied up with globalisat­ion.”

That globalisat­ion has caused economic suffering and job insecurity that stems from technical change, Paul says.

It has also led to huge population movements and both those factors he sees as key contributo­rs to the populist right wing rebellion.

“We’re a bit unmoored, it’s not quite clear where we’re going to end up.”

It’s not the first time the director has made a film about an atrocity that shook a nation, he is responsibl­e for films about 9/11 (United 93) and the massacre of Irish civil rights protesters by British troops in 1972 (Bloody Sunday), as well as the murder of Stephen Lawrence and the hijacking of an American cargo ship by Somali pirates (Captain Phillips). But he has never thought about the link between them until this film.

“I think it’s part of our world, these events, and they’re really, really significan­t moments.

“9/11 marked a big sea change in our awareness of the Middle East.

“We’re undergoing a similar moment now, I think people are starting to be aware now of the populist right with Trump and Brexit.

“As a filmmaker you try to reflect on the way the world’s going.

“Sometimes you reflect on it and try and use that to feed as entertainm­ent, commercial movies, Bourne movies; sometimes you try and do it in a more restrained and serious and unvarnishe­d fashion. But you’re always trying to reflect the world we live in.”

We are talking a few days after the far-right activist and former EDL leader Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, who goes by the name Tommy Robinson, has made a controvers­ial appearance on Newsnight. It has prompted a backlash against the BBC programme, with critics arguing it gave him undue prominence. “I can remember when I started this film I read Breivik’s testimony in court, which we use a section of in the movie, and he comes out with all these arguments about the betrayal by the elites and the sham of democracy and the evils of multicultu­ralism and forced multicultu­ralism and so forth. “Those opinions would have been considered marginal in 2011 but they’re now mainstream. “Tommy Robinson would have no problem saying it. Of course, I’m not saying he is the same as Breivik, that would be unfair.

“But he deploys the same argument and increasing­ly you hear these arguments in the mainstream because many millions of people agree with them. “So we have to confront those arguments by listening to them and acknowledg­ing that many people hold them.

“That is part of the wisdom of what Norway’s story tells us. “The prime minister says in the film ‘tell him I’m listening to him’. They face this challenge in the aftermath, do they allow Breivik to speak in the court, which of course carries the risk of giving him prominence and allowing him to spread his message, that’s a danger.

“But on the other hand, if you don’t allow him to speak, we’re not facing up to him and we’re also playing into his narrative of betrayal and sham democracy, because we would be denying him his right to free speech in a court that was going to judge him.

“With great wisdom and courage, they understood that he had to be allowed to speak.

“But even more importantl­y, he had to be confronted with a different perspectiv­e, and that’s where the young victims or survivors came in, because they went into court and confronted him and articulate­d a defence of liberal democracy, if you want to call it that.

“Through doing that, he was heard, confronted and beaten, both emotionall­y and morally and intellectu­ally, and that’s what the film’s about, an inspiring story ultimately and one that’s very, very relevant today because people want to feel heard. “That’s what’s at the heart of a lot of this anger, the populist anger. People feel they’re not being listened to, and you have to start by listening to people.”

IT has been almost three years since the world became obsessed with the stories of Steven Avery and Brendan Dassey – the subjects of Netflix’s Making A Murderer, which became an instant hit after its launch in December 2015.

Filmed over a 10-year period, Part One of the US thriller-documentar­y showed how Avery, a DNA exoneree, was in the midst of exposing police corruption when he became a prime suspect in the murder of 25-year-old photograph­er Teresa Halbach.

At the end of the first 10 episodes, Avery was sentenced to life in prison, along with his nephew Dassey, who has learning difficulti­es and, at the age of just 16, confessed to helping his uncle kill Halbach.

So, what can we expect from Making A Murderer Part Two? Moira Demos and Laura Ricciardi, the

 ??  ?? Fellowship winner Paul Greengrass at the Film Festival Awards, and (below) on set with Jonas Strand Gravli as Viljar Hanssen, a survivor who still has a bullet lodged in his head. Left: Anders Danielsen Lie as Anders Behring Breivik talks to his lawyer
Fellowship winner Paul Greengrass at the Film Festival Awards, and (below) on set with Jonas Strand Gravli as Viljar Hanssen, a survivor who still has a bullet lodged in his head. Left: Anders Danielsen Lie as Anders Behring Breivik talks to his lawyer
 ??  ?? 22 July is in UK cinemas and streaming on Netflix now.
22 July is in UK cinemas and streaming on Netflix now.

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