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‘Social media magnifies anxieties... we can’t sort out truth from rubbish’

Here, virus expert Professor Ron Eccles takes on Covid panic, anti-vaxxers and people who won’t wear masks. Sian Burkitt reports

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AN EXPERT in cold and influenza viruses has spoken about the anxiety caused by the spread of misinforma­tion about the coronaviru­s.

Professor Ron Eccles, former director of the Common Cold Centre at Cardiff University, spoke about the pandemic and his perspectiv­e on the potential challenges ahead over the coming winter months.

He believes that the virus, SarsCov-2, will ultimately turn into a milder illness like one of the common cold viruses that circulate widely in the community without causing major problems. But he warned that may take years and we need a vaccine first.

Prof Eccles also spoke about the importance of social distancing, wearing masks and washing your hands – but also of not being panicked by bad science and misinforma­tion.

He discussed research which made headlines earlier this week, which claimed that Covid-19 can remain infectious on surfaces such as door handles and banknotes for up to 28 days, as well as sharing his perspectiv­e on other issues raised during the pandemic.

The study, published in Virology Journal, found that Covid-19 could live on surfaces and be infectious for nearly a month.

“I’ve got friends who get deliveries from Tesco and they’re already leaving the delivery for two days before they touch it. Are they going to leave it for 28 days? People are really, really worried,” said Prof Eccles.

A major concern of his, he explained, is that the way in which the study in question was conducted was not representa­tive of real-world conditions.

In reality, the virus would be transmitte­d in respirator­y mucus, which is a “hostile environmen­t” he said, as it contains enzymes and cells which attack viruses.

“I don’t believe the virus will survive [in an infectious way] on surfaces for more than probably a few hours,” he said, explaining that this would vary according to factors in the environmen­t ronment such as temperatur­e and humidity.

“Now, that doesn’t mean you won’t get infected from a surface. If somebody is touching their nose and they’ve got respirator­y fluid on their nose, and they touch a door handle and then you touch it within the matter of an hour or so, you could get infected.”

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Prof Eccles is the fact that there is so much informatio­n currently available that it soon becomes very confusing for people who may not know how to distinguis­h tinguish reputable sources from thos those which should be treated wit with a bit more scrutiny. “They [Australian scientists] sc entists] did it in a rea reasonable sonable journal. Bu But there are thousands thou sands of rubbis rubbish journals out there there,” he said.

“You get thes these wild stories coming comin out about Covid Covid, and some journalist journalis will pick it up an and publish it. So I thin think there’s a lot of misin misinforma­tion formation coming out, ou which is very poor science.” sc ence.”

He added that, even a as an expert in respirator­y respir atory diseases, dis ease h e finds it difficult to keep up to date with Covid research due to the sheer amount of material being published.

“We’re overloaded with informatio­n,” he said.

“And where is the good informatio­n? I can pick out what I think is a rubbish journal and what I think is a rubbish publicatio­n, but maybe journalist­s and the general public can’t.

“We’ve never had a pandemic with social media.

“Pandemics in the past have just gone through the population without anybody really knowing what was happening. I think social media is magnifying our anxieties and magnifying our fear and we can’t sort out the truth from the rubbish.”

Another problem with social media, said Prof Eccles, is the way in which groups have used it to share their own agendas regarding the virus.

One such group is the anti-vaccine movement, or “anti-vaxxers”.

“Yes, there might be some safety issue with a vaccine, but we’ll have to look at it carefully and weigh up the risks,” said Prof Eccles.

“Even the vaccines for measles, mumps and influenza have very rare side-effects, around one in 10 million.

“But if you get measles or flu, then your chances of getting something more serious are much greater than one in 10 million, it’s probably more like one in 100. So you balance the risks.”

He added that vaccines are the “safest form of medicine”, stimulatin­g the immune system against specific bits of a virus.

“You’re not being given a live virus, and so the risk is minimal,” he said.

“The risk you put yourself at by not having the vaccine is far, far greater than any risk associated with using the vaccine.

“But it’s very difficult to go against belief. Once people have got it into their head that they believe that, it’s very difficult to shift them from it.”

Discussing a potential Covid-19 vaccinatio­n, Prof Eccles is confident that will be the biggest step in the world returning to at least a partial sense of normality.

“My great hope is the vaccine,” he said, adding that the Oxford vaccine currently seems like the most likely option in the UK.

He said he thinks it is “realistic” that a vaccine could be available by early 2021.

“We don’t know what level of protection it will give, but even if it just protects old people and the vulnerable from getting serious illness, that would be enough to open the economy. Because it won’t then overwhelm the NHS,” he said.

Until there is a vaccine, Prof Eccles said that the best way to minimise infection is a combinatio­n of hygiene measures, social distancing and masks.

“I think keeping your two-metre distance wherever possible, wearing a mask in a crowded place and washing your hands when you come back from a public place – these are the key messages to cut infection.”

Before we see the introducti­on of a vaccine, Prof Eccles believes there will be increased pressure on testing capacity in Wales and the rest of the UK caused by the usual cold and flu season over winter.

“I think it’s going to be a huge challenge now, and a lot of the problem is separating common cold and flu from Covid,” he said.

Discussing the difference­s between cold and flu viruses and Covid, and what people should be on the lookout for, Prof Eccles said: “You can’t be absolutely sure on this. If it’s what I call a ‘head cold’, where you’ve got a runny nose, sneezing, sore throat, then I call that a cold.

“If I’m getting more systemic symptoms, like feeling extremely tired, and if I’m an adult and I’m getting a fever, then that is more likely to be influenza or Covid.”

However, he said that differenti­ating between the flu and Covid becomes a bit more difficult.

“It’s difficult to separate the two, but I think the loss of sense of smell is a key one.

“You don’t usually get that on its own with cold and flu. And the feeling of great fatigue, without necessaril­y other symptoms.”

Discussing what he thinks may happen with Covid-19 in the future, the professor said he doesn’t see it disappeari­ng completely.

“The Sars-Covid-2 virus I think will, over time, develop into a common cold virus. It may take years, but it will develop into a milder illness,” he said.

“We already have four coronaviru­ses that cause common colds and we manage with them – they give us a sore throat, a runny nose.”

However, he was keen to emphasise that this would be a long process. “That’s talking years,” he said. “In the meantime, we want to protect ourselves with a vaccine.”

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Artist Luke Jerram’s sculpture of a coronaviru­s
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Prof Ron Eccles

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