South Wales Echo

I get Instagram messages saying ‘you inspired me to get clean’

Drag Race UK winner The Vivienne talks to ABI JACKSON about overcoming drug addiction, mental health, and getting to grips with money

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RUPAUL’S Drag Race UK isn’t just about the entertainm­ent – it’s a glimpse into the lives behind the showstoppi­ng make-up and outfits too. When The Vivienne opened up about overcoming drug addiction during season one in 2019, it started a conversati­on about an issue often hidden.

“I didn’t really expect to talk about it, but when you’re on a reality TV show you do open up a lot more, because it’s just a pressure cooker of emotions and personalit­ies,” she says now.

The Vivienne is glad she did though, as it has enabled her to show others you can beat these things. It took hitting “rock bottom” and being warned she’d be “dead by 30”, if she didn’t stop, for The Vivienne to start turning things around – but she did.

She got clean, found love with David Ludford (they’re now married), and of course became the UK’s first Drag Race winner.

She still gets at least 30 messages a day on Instagram, “saying, ‘You inspired me to get clean,’ or, ‘Your story really inspired me’. I love being able to help people with that,” adds the performanc­e artist, now 28.

“I also get messages off dads who have just discovered their son really loves Drag Race and they think maybe they’re gay, [saying] ‘I’ve tried everything to try and help him along, what can I do?’ When I reply, I’ll usually say something like, ‘You’re doing everything right.

“They’re young, they’ll find their people, they’ll find their tribe, they’ll find out who they are – as long as you are there to love and support them, you’re doing everything right’.”

BREAKING THE TABOO

Today, The Vivienne is talking about another element of this journey: personal finances problems. She’s teamed up with Experian on a campaign encouragin­g people to be ‘money positive’ – she knows first-hand how quickly things can spiral, and how much harder it is when no one talks about it. After leaving school at 16 and moving from North Wales to Liverpool, The Vivienne says like lots of people, she was unprepared for the realities of financial independen­ce. “I didn’t really get any training, you know, I wasn’t taught anything about all that at school.

You know you’re going to have bills to deal with, [but] I always looked at it like, ‘Oh look, this flat is £400 a month, I can afford that’ – I kind of forgot there was council tax on top of that, water bills, electricit­y, wifi, your phone, all these bills.

“And I wasn’t really prepared for the repercussi­ons that would come if you didn’t pay all those bills.”

LOSING SLEEP OVER MONEY

One of those repercussi­ons was constant anxiety.

“It’s horrible. I think money worries have one of the biggest effects on people’s mental health. You kind of know that what you’re doing isn’t great, but if you’re not in a position to deal with it, or having those conversati­ons... I used to lose sleep over it. I’d be scared if there was a knock at the door. I wasn’t educated on how to deal with those things.”

There were practical repercussi­ons too, as mounting unpaid bills had dented her credit score. A reality check came when she tried to take out a new phone contract, but was refused when she failed the credit score check.

“It was a hard lesson. I’m only now really getting in a good financial position, because I’ve learned about all that stuff.

“My dream now is me and David want to buy a house, so [getting my finances in order] has been really important, to make sure I can set up for a mortgage in the future.”

For The Vivienne, being ‘money positive’ means lots of things – including talking and taking positive action.

She says she wishes she’d known sooner that there are solutions, like payment plans to help you pay off mounting debts.

As someone who knows the value of speaking up about hidden issues, she’s glad to be part of the conversati­on.

“Another reason I wanted to get on board with this campaign was so I could really have open and honest conversati­ons about what kind of mess I got into, and maybe share some knowledge with younger people, and older people who may still not be super educated on personal finances.

“There is such a social stigma around [money problems], but maybe if I’d talked more about it back then, I would have been in a much better mental state about it. But I was so scared to talk about it.

“I think when you do have those conversati­ons, you can kind of go, ‘Oh right, so there are solutions out there, there is a way I can get myself out of this’. It’s a great feeling, and it puts you in such a better position for your financial future.”

I used to lose sleep over it. I’d be scared if there was a knock at the door.

The Vivienne on her money worries

■ Experian Boost is a free new service that can help people boost their credit score through sharing more informatio­n on some of their regular payments, such as Netflix, Spotify and council tax. Visit experian.co.uk/consumer/ experian-boost.html

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■ Series 2 of RuPaul’s Drag Race UK is on BBC iPlayer, with new episodes landing on Thursdays
The Vivienne, back row, and her fellow RuPaul’s Drag Race UK series one contestant­s ■ Series 2 of RuPaul’s Drag Race UK is on BBC iPlayer, with new episodes landing on Thursdays
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