I’d like to hug it out with Noel
LIAM GALLAGHER’S FRANKEST INTERVIEW YET
HE has come through a bitter divorce, a messy child support battle and remains locked in a bitter feud with his brother.
So as Liam Gallagher sits down, I expect the brashest man in rock to come out fighting.
Instead he sips on a glass of rosé, puts it down and throws up his hands in a ‘yeah, well’ shrug. “Listen, no one is perfect,” says the singer. “I made my own mistakes. Life is full of ups and downs and drama. I live it on the edge.”
Liam in such a philosophical mood is unnerving. Yet he wants to tell how he “messed up” his kids’ life but is still a “top dad”. He wants to thank his partner Debbie Gwyther for transforming his life.
Oh, and he wants to patch things up with brother Noel, 50.
“Every now and again I veer into murky waters and I get myself in a lot of s***,” says the 45-year-old dad of four. “But I’m not hurting anyone, I haven’t killed anyone and the people I have hurt, I guess I’ve made it up with them.
“Hopefully we can move on with it, get on with our lives. Especially with my kids anyway, I know I’ve messed their lives up a bit but it’s not the end of the world. They are still alive. My mum’s alive and we are all doing well.
“I come from a broken f ****** family and it didn’t do me any harm. I’m a top dad. You just have to do the right thing every now and again and no one is perfect. Now I’m f ****** happy because there is a record out and I can balance it with all the drama.”
The former Oasis frontman saw his personal life spiral out of control in 2013, leading to a £6million divorce from Nicole Appleton.
Liam is dad to 16-year-old Gene with ex Nicole, 42, and 18-year-old Lennon with first wife Patsy Kensit.
He also has 20-year-old Molly from a fling with singer Lisa Moorish, as well as Gemma, four, with US journalist Liza Ghorbani.
In his new album As You Were he recounts how his world crumbled after the split with Nicole.
In For What It’s Worth he sings: “Sometimes we lose our way/I’m sorry for the hurt/I’ll be the first to say, ‘I made my own mistakes’.”
Now music manager Debbie fills the position by his side – a glamorous 35-year-old who has arranged our interview at Cote in North London’s Highgate.
Bounding into the restaurant, the lovebirds order rosé. Two more bottles later, Liam is gushing about his new love as she sits at another table while we chat. “She is f ****** top,” he says. “She is more hardcore than me. When she goes, she goes. I’m old now, I’m like, I think I’ll get off and leave her to it.” Album track When
I’m In Need is an ode to Debbie. Liam confides: “I’ve got more romantic. I iron Debbie’s clothes. She sorted me right out. Me and her like having a drink. We like having a laugh. I’ve met my match, my soulmate. The kids love her, that’s good.”
And she can bring him down to earth. “Debbie used to run me a nice bubble bath. She doesn’t do that any more. She’s like ‘f*** you, you’re a d***. I love a nice soak in a bath, as girly as it sounds, with a candle, man. You can just relax and come out like a buddha.” So wedding bells soon? “We’ve talked about marriage. Who knows? Third time lucky. I never say never.” After joking I can be his best man, he says it’s unlikely there will be more kids. “Debbie doesn’t want them either. I certainly don’t want any more, got enough”.
Fans have labelled Liam the last true rock and roller. Does he agree? “I think the music industry is better with me in it. That’s not me being a bighead, it’s just better.”
One man he considers as cool as him is the late George Michael. He reveals how they formed an unlikely friendship after George once turned up unexpectedly at an Oasis gig: “We were playing Bournemouth and he turns up with three Bananarama girls. I was going, ‘I’m sure that’s George Michael down the front’. Our kid is like ‘f*** off, carry on singing’. But I’m going ‘there is
f ****** George Michael down the front pogoing’. I met him back at the hotel and he was saying how much he loved the band.”
George, who died on Christmas Day, chose Liam to appear in his final piece of work, documentary Freedom on Channel 4 later this month.
Liam said: “I was well pleased. I was like ‘are you sure you don’t want Noel doing it?’ They said ‘no, George wants you in it’. So that was nice. Then he sent me some flowers, God bless him.”
After another bottle of wine, Liam is on to his beauty secrets – which consist of “never ever washing my skin with soap” and going for daily 6am runs. But he reckons Noel works out too much. “He looks so miserable, like he’s dying for a f ****** KFC.” Realising he has just mentioned his bro, the bravado is lost and Liam admits he wants to end their feud. He insists: “I hope we make up. Not just for Oasis but for brothers.
“Enough is enough now. I know I wind him up. I have put it out there enough times, but I think he doesn’t want to know. I reckon we would have to meet up and hug it out, as they say.”
Whether it’s the booze or not, Liam seems refreshingly grounded.
He adds: “I am more spiritual. Not in a way where I’ve got wind chimes outside my front door and I get up and pray, but I feel connected and protected by the universe. I don’t know why, but I feel in tune with it.”
As You Were is out now and Liam’s UK tour kicks off in December. Album review: Page 38
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