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Netflix comedy-drama Glow, about a group of women wrestlers, is back for a second series. GEORGIA HUMPHREYS talks to its stars and finds out why the show is an ‘amazing feminist oasis’

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GLOW is the sort of TV show that screams female empowermen­t.

The Netflix comedy follows out-of-work actress Ruth Wilder (Alison Brie) and a group of 12 other misfits as they try to find stardom in an undeniably male-dominated field: wrestling.

Based on real-life Eighties phenomenon Gorgeous Ladies Of Wrestling (GLOW), the first series was a fist-pumping watch as we saw the group succeed in securing a first season of their very own TV show.

But, as their characters battle behind the scenes to make the project a success, stars Alison Brie and Betty Gilpin explain that series two feels more “difficult and vulnerable”.

“That is what it feels like to do what you love for a living,” suggests Betty, 31, who is also known for US drama Nurse Jackie.

“It can at once feel like the most empowering, most wonderful, fulfilling feeling, and then the next day you’re back in the basement just feeling horrible and vulnerable and not knowing what the next step is.”

California-born Alison, 35, agrees, adding: “The one thing I’ve learnt in 10 years of working in this industry is that nothing comes easy.”

Here, the stars tell us more about starring in Glow.

HEADSTRONG CHARACTERS

ALONGSIDE Alison and Betty (who plays Debbie, Ruth’s best friend turned wrestling nemesis), the show boasts an eclectic ensemble of actresses – including real-life wrestler Kia Stevens and Briton Kate Nash, the former pop star best known for 2007 hit Foundation­s.

Their characters may have the help of Sam Sylvia, a washed-up director of B-movies (played by Marc Maron) in their mission for fame, but it goes without saying that this is a bunch of very strong, dedicated and forwardthi­nking females.

“A big theme of our show is women empowering themselves and that’s what I think you see our characters, all the women on the show, trying to constantly do – define their own roles and make their own way,” says Alison, star of US series Mad Men.

“And then they have these men in their lives who really want to limit those roles, and define them in a different way.”

Playing Ruth has certainly changed the way that Alison approaches future jobs – she confides that, in the past, she settled for roles “that were not as interestin­g or dynamic”.

“Now feeling so fulfilled by this job, I feel like I don’t need to do that anymore,” she adds.

WRESTLING WONDERS

A BIG part of Glow is that the stars do their own (very impressive) stunts.

“I definitely think in season one, I struggled with second-guessing myself in the ring, and not being confident enough, and then doing moves I didn’t know I could do,” New York native Betty recalls of the wrestling scenes.

But this season, there were no limits, and both actresses found it surprising how easy they found returning to the action.

“We still did a month of training before shooting,” Alison elaborates, “and right away, it came back – physically our bodies really remembered what to do.

“And, because we had already got rid of that barrier of embarrassm­ent or anything like that, we had the intimacy with each other. We were able to use that as a jumping point and work on bigger moves.”

Indeed, one reason why Alison loves starring in Glow so much is the fact it’s made her realise her own physical power while training.

“The way that you work out is not about being super skinny or losing weight,” she points out. “It’s about lifting weights and it’s about being really strong, and believing that strong is sexy.”

BODY IMAGE BATTLES

IT’S inspiring to hear how portraying a wrestler has changed the way Betty sees herself.

“I realise that I never really thought about my body as a functional thing,” the actress frankly admits. “I considered myself an actor from the neck up, and from the neck down it was the thing that you had to keep as small as possible so you wouldn’t be fired.” She continues: “So much about what is happening in the world right now has made me realise how unkind to myself I’ve been and how there is a representa­tive of the male gaze working in my brain. I think that it’s our job as women to murder that voice in our own brain.”

“It’s very easy to believe the business when it tells you that the things that are valuable about you are the things that are going to expire, and that your body is a vessel for a bikini or a sex scene instead of something that could have function, and be powerful, and support you throughout the day,” Betty remarks.

“It [Glow] has completely changed the way that I eat, the way that I walk. I’m now trying to be a social worker on behalf of my own body and self, instead of a critiquing, gross, male-gazey troll.”

SAFE SPACE

IT goes without saying that it’s a tumultuous time in Hollywood currently, what with the allegation­s against Harvey Weinstein and the feminist movements that have followed.

Discussing this topic, Alison notes: “It’s refreshing, actually, that Glow wasn’t a response to this movement, but was actually just part of the wave that was oncoming for a while.

“But on a day-to-day basis, reading story after story and reflecting on my own career and experience­s, it’s incredibly refreshing and just wonderful, I guess, to work in such a safe space with women and be seen and heard and feel well-represente­d and just have such open lines of communicat­ion and transparen­cy all around.”

Indeed, even with the huge strides being made in Hollywood to empower women, Alison argues: “Glow remains an amazing feminist oasis.” Especially in terms of body image.

“When we think and talk about our bodies while working on Glow, we really talk about them like athletes, we’re talking about the moves that we’re doing in the ring,” she goes on.

“And sometimes it can still be easy to forget that positive message, when we are unleashed back into the wilds of our industry, trying to book other jobs, you feel that unhealthy voice creep in and go, ‘Maybe I would have got it if I looked this way’. That voice is the enemy.

“Glow has shown me the healthy way to think and be, and now my journey is to listen to that healthy voice all the time.”

 ??  ?? Betty Gilpin as Debbie Eagan, left, and Alison Brie as Ruth Wilder
Betty Gilpin as Debbie Eagan, left, and Alison Brie as Ruth Wilder
 ??  ?? From left, Rhonda (Kate Nash), Melanie (Jackie Tohn), Stacey (Kimmy Gatewood), Debbie (Betty Gilpin) and Yolanda (Shakira Barrera)
From left, Rhonda (Kate Nash), Melanie (Jackie Tohn), Stacey (Kimmy Gatewood), Debbie (Betty Gilpin) and Yolanda (Shakira Barrera)
 ??  ?? Betty and Alison in action
Betty and Alison in action
 ??  ?? Alison played Trudy Campbell in the hit TV series Mad Men
Alison played Trudy Campbell in the hit TV series Mad Men

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