‘Mrs May’s not there for the long haul’
Lord Patten tells Fionnuala Mchugh about his recent poor health, how to save the BBC – and who could be the next Prime Minister
This week, Lord Patten of Barnes had a busier Tuesday than he is used to. Before lunchtime, he had conducted two interviews to promote his new book, First Confession: A Sort of Memoir, to be published later this month on the 20th anniversary of Hong Kong’s return to China. In the afternoon, he went to Hampton Court to attend the Queen’s centenary celebration for her Companions of Honour, where he posed for an official photograph alongside other notables including Sir David Attenborough, Dame Judi Dench and Sir Roger Bannister. Then, in the evening, he was taken to the Brompton Hospital, ahead of an operation the next day to fix a cardiac ablation. “The problem for me is that I fibrillate,” he says. “I fibrillate quite violently…”
He had been due to be checked in with the doctors at 2pm but, mindful of his audience with the Queen, they allowed him to defer until 7pm. At 73, Lord Patten is no stranger to the operating theatre. “I had a virus after Christmas, I went to Burma and it got worse. What happens is fluid builds up in the legs during the day, and then at night it congregates on the lungs.”
On his return to London, he took himself to hospital – and staff drained 10 kilos of fluid.
First Confession is dedicated to both his family and his cardiologists. In it, he writes that he’s been much luckier than his parents, both of whom died relatively young. Still, no sooner had he arrived in Hong Kong in 1992 as its last governor, aged 48, he had a heart attack. His health – and weight – have fluctuated ever since.
Despite his impending surgery, he looks slimmer and fitter. This is our fourth interview in the past two decades, including one on the veranda of Hong Kong’s former Government House (he was about to embark on a cabbage-soup diet in preparation for handover entertaining) and one in Brussels in 2002, when he was EU Commissioner for External Relations and clearly not on a diet.
The last time we met, in 2012, when he was chairman of the BBC Trust with a Dalek parked outside his office, Lord Patten looked greyly unwell. Two years later, he had another heart attack. “I was a lot heavier then and under huge stress,” he admits.
Only seven of the book’s 298 pages deal with his BBC era. “It wasn’t the happiest period of my life,” he says. “The people who told me the job was impossible were probably right.”
Three years after resigning on health grounds, Lord Patten is clear about how the BBC can secure its survival in the age of Netflix: slim down. “Given the squeeze on funding, it can’t afford to go on doing all the things it’s doing at the moment, while
‘The people who told me the job was impossible were probably right’
spreading the marg more thinly. The identity of BBC Two and BBC Four, for instance, is increasingly confused. BBC Four – which, like a lot of middle-class people, I watch more than almost any other channel – is financed on a shoestring.” He only just stops short of suggesting that its more established sister channel be closed and its budget be diverted.
Today, he’s off duty and at home in Barnes, and surrounded by books, paintings, Chinese pottery and photographs of his family. His phone pings constantly as his three daughters, Kate, Laura and Alice, ring him to wish him good luck for his
heart op. Events in the UK, however, have rather overtaken all thoughts of Hong Kong’s anniversary. On election night, Lord Patten was at the Irish Embassy in Rome preparing a speech on the future of Europe. The exit polls, however, meant a rewrite. “I’d said, right at the outset, I didn’t think the election would be a walk in the park. But I didn’t think it was going to be a walk in the cemetery.”
Now a cross-bench peer, Lord Patten is wary of the party he served as chairman now being propped up in government by the Democratic Unionist Party. “I think it’s a thoroughly bad idea,” he says. “What is any close relationship with the DUP going to do to the Conservative brand? The advice I would have given is not to touch it with a bargepole.”
Lord Patten has first-hand experience of dealing with the DUP, from two years as a junior Northern Ireland minister in Margaret Thatcher’s second administration, when he helped reform the Royal Ulster Constabulary.
“Colleagues in the House of Commons looked on my time in Northern Ireland as the equivalent of working in a Siberian power station,” he says, “but I loved it. Not the weather, but the topography, the countryside.”
Northern Ireland, however, has less than spotless memories of Patten himself. I happened to be in Belfast last week and a taxi driver, hearing Patten’s name, immediately seethed: “I hate him. I’m a Unionist and he took the London out of Londonderry.”
That was 33 years ago, in 1984, when the city’s council came under the control of the Social Democratic and Labour Party who were, therefore, entitled – provocatively – to change its name. Patten, as junior minister, was obliged to sign off on it. “I took legal advice, but there was absolutely nothing I could do,” he says now. “The Unionists called me the Minister of Treachery, and the DUP organised a march outside my house.” It didn’t help that Patten is Catholic. His faith gives his book its title (from a famous Frank O’connor short story), as well as its thread. The mea culpa aspect is strong in the earlier chapters, particularly recalling his relationship with his father whom he treated with “the supercilious patronising of a young smart-arse”. His earliest religious memory is his father kissing him goodnight and tracing the letters “INRI” (Jesus of Nazareth, King of the Jews) on his forehead, as preservation “from sudden and unprepared death”. Patten did the same to his own children, and now to his grandchildren.
In 2010, he coordinated Pope Benedict’s visit to Britain. Certain issues with Scotland proved painful, thanks mostly to Alex Salmond. “He was very difficult to negotiate with,” Patten says. Still, the man who so
humiliatingly lost his Bath seat in 1992 has some advice for both the former SNP leader and other big beasts who lost theirs earlier this month, a roll-call that includes Nick Clegg. Might Strictly Come Dancing be the answer? “I thought Ed Balls took a huge risk doing the show, but what people discovered was that he was a real human being, full of selfdeprecation and charm. But I don’t think either Alex Salmond or Nick Clegg would be wise to do it. Or Great British Bake Off.”
The other loser on election night, in Lord Patten’s eyes, was the sitting Prime Minister. “I would doubt whether even Mrs May would think she’s there for the long haul,” he says.
For his money, there are “one or two grown-ups” in the Cabinet who could well replace her as Conservative leader, notably Home Secretary Amber Rudd, who he singles out as “impressive”, if only for “the way she handled herself against that hostile audience [during the TV election debate, when she stood in for the Prime Minister], without once losing her cool or her dignity”, and Chancellor of the Exchequer Philip Hammond (“an Oxford First, speaks beautiful French, has a hinterland and was a successful businessman”) – though Greg Clarke, who was reappointed as Secretary of State for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy, is “clearly a smart man … but if I really wanted to blight somebody’s prospects, I’d name them”.
For now, his thoughts are on summer: he will spend August in France with his wife, Lavender, and their tribe. “God willing,” he adds.
‘What is any close relationship with the DUP going to do to the Conservative brand?’