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HIGHS AND LOWS

Greg McHugh talks mental health, autism and Gary: Tank Commander

- Interviewe­d by Susan Swarbrick

THIS time a year ago Greg McHugh was at his lowest ebb. The actor had finished a successful run with Gary: Tank Commander at the SSE Hydro and suddenly felt like he had “hit a huge wall”. Rather than being elated by the achievemen­t, McHugh was gripped by debilitati­ng anxiety.

“I felt emotionall­y very low, completely burnt out,” he says, adding that it gave him an important reminder that “career isn’t everything” in life.

Edinburgh-born McHugh, whose roles include Channel 4’s Fresh Meat, football film Marvellous and BBC drama The A Word, spoke about his experience­s during a discussion last month on mental health at the Scottish Parliament’s Festival of Politics.

“I had gone through something I had no history of,” he says. “The invitation to speak came out of the blue a couple of months after I had felt like that.

“I don’t rate myself as a big public figure that is going to change lives but I thought: ‘If you watch my shows and like what I’ve done and think my life is absolutely straightfo­rward and one big showbiz whatever, it is not.’

“I wanted to go and say to people: ‘If you’re feeling a bit rubbish, I have felt a bit rubbish too, I’m feeling great now.’ I know what the warning signals are.”

There was a fleeting moment, says McHugh, when he wondered if it had been the right thing to speak publicly about his private struggles. Yet, the 37-year-old remains sanguine that it was the correct choice.

“It just felt genuinely it was the right thing to do,” he says. “I could have said no and kept it private and not talked about it. It was difficult. You do feel quite vulnerable admitting these things because at the heart of acting, you want to keep this perception you are a bit invincible.

“So, when you open up about these things and then see it written down, it can feel like: ‘Oh no, that is out there now’. But on reflection it is the right thing to do. That is healthier than not speaking or shying away from it.”

The trigger, says McHugh, was a perfect storm last year where he badly fractured his ankle after falling down stairs at a friend’s party, needed to undergo surgery and was preparing for the biggest production of his life performing to 30,000 people over three nights at the SSE Hydro.

“Because I broke my ankle I didn’t have an income until we had completed the Gary: Tank Commander live shows,” he says. “I have obviously got a mortgage. I don’t know what people’s perception is, but I have not retired to Florida. I still need to pay bills and all the rest of it.”

Surgeons had repaired the ankle using a plate and screws, but a month before he was due to perform in Glasgow, one of the pins snapped leaving McHugh in fresh agony.

“If the show hadn’t have happened, the producer Mick Perrin would have lost a huge amount of money and I wouldn’t have got paid,” he says. “That would have had a huge impact. I was under a lot of pressure.”

Testament to his tenacity, McHugh didn’t falter. Yet, once the dust settled on the live shows, something niggled. “When that pressure stops, I thought I would feel relief and I didn’t,” he says. “I couldn’t work out why.”

McHugh spoke with a therapist to combat his anxiety. “She was very good at explaining how when all of a sudden your brain stops that fight or flight mode, it can struggle to adjust because of the adrenalin. It was like my brain was looking for the next fire to fight and there wasn’t one. It had become used to thinking: ‘Next! Next! Next!’”

He is now, says McHugh, feeling back to his old self, but keen to impart to others, especially young people dealing with exam stress, relationsh­ips, sexuality and social pressures, the importance of not overlookin­g their mental health and wellbeing.

He views it as crucial that we normalise these conversati­ons and speak openly.

“I think in the current climate of people speaking out against abuses of power, that society generally will be healthier the more we can talk about these things that have traditiona­lly been hidden away.”

The actor is currently starring in BBC drama The A Word which returned for a second series earlier this month. Its storyline centres on a young boy called Joe who has been diagnosed with autism. The cast includes fellow Scot Morven Christie and former Doctor Who Christophe­r Eccleston.

McHugh plays Eddie Scott, uncle to Joe (Max Vento) and cuckolded husband of Nicola (Vinette Robinson) who has returned to the Lake District to work on his crumbling marriage. “Eddie fits into the family as the underdog and the put upon one.”

Viewers will see Eddie evolve as a character. “He has already taken control and made some quite strong decisions about his own career, life and work. You can see it from the start of series two and it builds along that road. He has a number of wobbles and tests.”

McHugh has forged close friendship­s with co-star Lee Ingleby (“a very cheeky chappy and maybe the biggest corpser I have worked with”)

I don’t know in which darkest recesses Gary lives in my brain but he is there and can pop out

and Eccleston with whom he has developed a fierce table tennis rivalry.

The pair play regular matches during breaks in filming. Who has bragging rights for most wins? “We decided not play games because we got a bit too competitiv­e. We just hit back and forth now. Chris probably edges it. I hate to say it but he does.”

McHugh’s role in The A Word has a personal meaning too. After moving to London in the mid-2000s to pursue a stand-up career, he worked in behavioura­l units and special needs schools. “I worked in one place for a year that was specifical­ly students on the [autism] spectrum and absolutely loved it,” he says. “Although I didn’t mention it in the audition [for The A Word] because I was coming in to play someone who doesn’t have a knowledge about it.”

McHugh is best known, on this side of the Border at least, for his alter ego as camp, perma-tanned and cheesy pasta-obsessed squaddie Gary McLintoch, a corporal in the fictional 104th Royal Tank Regiment.

He first performed the character to 50 people at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe in 2005. McHugh’s take on front-line life was developed into Gary’s War, a one-off pilot for More4 that won a Scottish Bafta in 2008.

A full BBC Two Scotland series the following year garnered cult status, not least among those in the military. It ran for three years. The bold Gary brought much-needed light relief when he grilled the main political party leaders for a BBC Scotland election special programme in 2016 about

thorny issues such as tax, climate change, nuclear weapons and how to make daytime TV show Homes Under The Hammer less addictive.

McHugh will reprise Gary for the panto Jack and the Beanstalk at the SEC Armadillo next month, alongside comedy duo The Dolls (aka Louise

McCarthy and Gayle Telfer Stevens). He finds it easy to slip back into Gary mode. “I don’t know in which darkest recesses he lives in my brain, but he is there and can pop out,” says McHugh. “I think I have written him for so long he is permanentl­y there.”

The youngest of three brothers,

McHugh grew up in leafy Morningsid­e. His first taste of showbiz came in primary one when he was selected to audition for Michael Aspel’s game show, Child’s Play. Unfortunat­ely, when his big moment came, the youngster clammed up.

“I was too shy,” he says. “I remember the gentleman who came from the production walking me across St Peter’s Primary School playground to the headmistre­ss’s office, which is where they were doing the filming, and being terrified because I didn’t know who he was.

“When we got there I wouldn’t speak to him. It was that thing of being wary of strangers, but that doesn’t work for auditions.”

These days McHugh lives in the seaside town of Hove in East Sussex with wife Katie and their two young children. “I was down at the beach doing some notes earlier,” he says, before going on to a recount a recent funny moment in a co-working space.

A woman asked him the password for the shared wi-fi before doing a double take. “She turned round to me and said: ‘You look exactly like that guy Howard from Fresh Meat’ and I said: ‘Yeah, I am’. That kind of blew her mind a bit. It was lovely and odd.”

Currently in the pipeline is a part in Sky’s supernatur­al historical-fantasy A Discovery of Witches – adapted from the 2011 Deborah Harkness novel – with Downton Abbey star Matthew Goode. “I’m playing a Scottish demon called Hamish who is Matthew Goode’s character’s mentor and long-term friend,” says McHugh. “It will be on Sky at some stage next year. That has been phenomenal.” The A Word is on BBC One, Tuesdays, 9pm. Jack and the Beanstalk is at the SEC Armadillo in Glasgow from December 16 until January 7. For tickets, visit sec.co.uk

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 ?? Picture: Kirsty Anderson ?? Actor and writer Greg McHugh is known for his roles in Gary: Tank Commander, Fresh Meat and The A Word.
Picture: Kirsty Anderson Actor and writer Greg McHugh is known for his roles in Gary: Tank Commander, Fresh Meat and The A Word.

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