The Jewish Chronicle

Found: Minister for the Jews

The former Communitie­s Secretary speaks frankly about faith, Israel and Jeremy Corbyn

- BY MARCUS DYSCH

FROM HIS desk overlookin­g Westminste­r Abbey, Sir Eric Pickles is in prime position to consider an issue particular­ly close to his heart.

It is from here that the former Conservati­ve minister, a committed Christian, assesses the role faith plays in modern Britain.

In a political landscape where spindoctor Alastair Campbell’s advice to Tony Blair that “we don’t do God” still largely holds firm, Sir Eric is one of a small number of MPs trying to raise the prominence of religion.

“I think it does matter,” he said. “If you stripped away my Christiani­ty, or your Jewishness, we’d be lesser people.”

After five years as Secretary of State for Communitie­s and Local Government, he could perhaps have counted himself unlucky when he was, effectivel­y, sacked after the election in May.

But the 63-year-old did not leave without some reward — he was knighted and now enjoys a raft of high-profile post-ministeria­l positions, including as the Prime Minister’s special envoy on post-Holocaust issues.

Within minutes of being dumped from the cabinet Sir Eric received a phone call from Conservati­ve Friends of Israel director Stuart Polak asking him to become the group’s new parliament­ary chairman.

A supporter of the country since his teenage years, the Brentwood and Ongar MP immediatel­y accepted, despite the “very bad impression” of his West Yorkshire accent performed by the CFI chief.

Life now provides Sir Eric with oppor- tunities he could not enjoy during his years around the cabinet table. Ministeria­l convention meant he was not allowed to stand up publicly for Israel during times of crisis, or explain his views on faith. “I was a silent, brooding presence. Now I don’t feel so silent, or brooding,” he said, pu s h i n g hi s new, fashionabl­e spectacles into place.

As Communitie­s Secretary he encouraged Jews, Muslims and other religious minorities to work more closely together. Many in the interfaith community were unaccustom­ed to the bullish Yorkshirem­an’s approach.

He said: “I just felt interfaith stuff was meaningles­s unless you did something. Sitting on beanbags, holding hands and singing Kumbaya was just pointless.

“What I was interested in was if there were initiative­s by groups — Jewish, Muslim, Christian — that went beyond their immediate community. I was always very keen to see different groups coming together to do things.”

By denying the groups what he called a “spiritual outlet” and forcing them to work in practical ways on collaborat­ive projects, Sir Eric believes progress was made. One of his favourite initiative­s was Mitzvah Day.

“I just loved that. It was typical of the Jewish community. The real Jewish community is one that doesn’t just look within, it wants to do something with the wider community.”

Relations between British Jewish and Muslim leaders were “better than the headlines would suggest”, but Sir Eric acknowledg­ed that “the street can be nasty, can be judgmental, and sometimes good people are not putting their heads above the parapet because of retributio­n — not interracia­lly, but from people more extreme within their own community”.

In his work with local authoritie­s, Sir Eric repeatedly challenged councils that he felt were doing too little to remove racist graffiti or oppose racism. He was also one of the first officials to argue against the flying of Palestinia­n flags over British town halls during last summer’s Gaza conflict.

But in the past 12 months he has sensed an awakening. Southampto­n University’s decision to cancel a conference in April that would have challenged Israel’s right to exist was, Sir Eric said, “a watershed — it was determined­ly something going in the other direction. Too much had been held within a thin veneer of freedom of speech.”

Sir Eric’s departure from the cabinet has in no way weakened his party loyalty. Sitting in his Tor y-blue braces ahead of the annual conference next week he thinks for a moment about the new Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn. It was “absolutely extraordin­ary”, he said, to think of Labour’s top job being held

‘I think religion does matter. We’d be lesser people without it’

by someone “who openly embraced extremists and regards Hamas and Hizbollah as friends. This is not just about community cohesion, it’s about whether our country is safe. You can say you are not antisemiti­c, but if you’re not, don’t mix with antisemite­s.”

Mr Corbyn’s approach to Israel — he has suggested he is in favour of economic sanctions — would be damaging to Britain, Sir Eric added.

“You have to understand, and I don’t think people do, quite how integrated our two economies are: our relationsh­ip in biotech, in tech generally, our great work and co-operation in defence.”

As CFI chair he is “determined to do my small bit to ensure this wonderful bastion of democracy succeeds”.

Sir Eric’s love of Israel goes back more than 30 years. He was attracted to its “free speech, independen­t judiciary, functionin­g democracy. It’s a fundamenta­l part of being a Tory.”

Removed from the cabinet, he finds himself occasional­ly publicly criticisin­g his ex-colleagues. When Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond went to Tehran in August, Sir Eric held him to account over Iran’s support for terror groups.

Such comments are “within the confines of a deeply loving relationsh­ip between myself and Philip, CFI and the Conservati­ve Party”, Sir Eric said. “We want to see progress. I want to be robust. I’m a friend of Israel. That’s not to say I approve of everything the Israeli government does—heck, I was a cabinet minister, we did things I didn’t entirely approve of, but that’s the nature of politics.”

He has never doubted David Cameron’s commitment to Israel, he said.

A long-standing supporter of Holocaust education groups, Sir Eric’s special responsibi­lity as the Prime Minister’s envoy on Shoah issues is a source of particular pride. He is determined to tackle what he sees as a lack of knowledge about the genocide.

“The deniers we’ll never touch. It’s the people in the middle, those who have never really thought about it, they are the ones you want to get.”

Sir Eric’s conversati­ons with survivors have convinced him that recording their testimony, and encouragin­g their children and grandchild­ren to take on the responsibi­lity of telling their stories in years to come, is the best way forward. He recalled a trip to Windermere in August to mark the 70th anniversar­y of the Kindertran­s-port. He overheard two survivors engaging in light competitio­n over how many grandchild­ren each had at Oxford and Cambridge universiti­es.

“I thought, ‘this is the whole ruddy point’ — what is, and what could have been. Here we have these bright pennies going on to great universiti­es and jobs. All those folks who were murdered, they could have done the same thing.”

Sir Eric accepts that he faces a tough task ensuring the voice of faith communitie­s is heard in politics.

He told the story of preparing to speak at a Holocaust Memorial Day event alongside Guardian journalist and JC columnist Jonathan Freedland.

“I just decided to close my eyes and say a little prayer before I went on because I wanted to get it right.

“He tapped me and said, ‘Are you having a little sleep?’ I thought, ‘For God’s sake.’ You can’t express any suggestion of faith without being clobbered.”

Much was made last month of Mr Corbyn’s failed plan to appoint a “Minister for Jews”. Given the three key strands of his post-cabinet life — religion, the Holocaust, and Israel — is Sir Eric not the Tories’ de facto Minister for Jews?

He grinned: “Well I’m not Jewish, and I’m not a minister. I think I’m everybody’s guy. I’m there to be a voice and to give a view. But you can bat for yourself, I’m pretty damn sure.”

‘I will do all I can to ensure Israel, a bastion of democracy, survives’

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