The Jewish Chronicle

Amos Oz: we owe it all to Ben Gurion

AmosOz’s latest novel focuses on the archetypal hate figure for antisemite­s

- AMOS OZ

IN THE collective unconsciou­s of western civilisati­on, the name Judas Iscariot epitomises the word “traitor” like no other.

Judas supposedly condemned Jesus to a gruesome violent death sentence by crucifixio­n: selling him out for a paltry 30 pieces of silver. Then, wracked with guilt, Judas hung himself from a fig tree.

For Jews, Judas is the elephant in the room. He’s almost taboo in Jewish literature, history or academic study, probably because he is the archetype for antisemite­s: the turncoat Jew who values money over loyalty.

In Amos Oz’s latest novel, Judas, the central protagonis­t of the narrative, Shmuel Ash — a diffident young radical intellectu­al — has an obsession with Judas Iscariot.

Shmuel believes that Judas was the most loyal of Jesus’s 12 disciples and that his betrayal of Jesus was fabricated by the later gospels for political reasons.

So why, at this late stage in his career — after publishing 19 novels, six books of non-fiction and one children’s book — did Oz decide to explore the subject of Judas, and his rather complex relationsh­ip to both Christian and Jewish culture?

“Well, the way you phrase the question, it sounds like I wrote an essay exploring the subject,” Oz replies, lounging back on the sofa, coffee cup in hand.

“Fundamenta­lly, this is a story about three people, changing each other a little bit. However, one of the ideas that obsesses the protagonis­t is the question of loyalty and betrayal.

“Judas is the archetype of a traitor,” Oz explains. “You call someone Judas: you spit in his face. Not in my language though. In Hebrew, it’s very common. My father was Judas. My son’s name is Judas too.” In Israel, the book is called The

Gospel according to Judas, with Judas spelled in Hebrew “Yehudah”.

“The famous 30 pieces of silver, the kiss, the god-killing, the whole story is unlikely, even from a purely detective point of view,” Oz argues, “so my protagonis­t offers an alternativ­e story.”

Intriguing­ly, Oz maintains that, throughout history, traitors are usually those who have been way ahead of their time.

Judas is set in Jerusalem during the winter of 1959-1960. The story explores the rather strange relationsh­ip between three odd individual­s: Shmuel Ash, a young student; Atalia Abravanel, a flirtatiou­s femme-fatale type, twice Shmuel’s age, who eventually seduces him and treats him with contempt, pity, love, and curiosity in equal measure; and Gershom Wald, an elderly invalid, who has a passionate zeal for Israeli politics and history.

While Oz is fairly reluctant to talk about actual Israeli politics, the subject is almost inescapabl­e. He has been a consistent advocate for a two-state solution, and helped set up Peace Now in 1978 — though, these days, Oz doesn’t consider himself a pacifist. In recent years, Oz has become a vocal cam- paigner for the left-wing, social democratic Zionist party Meretz. Is writing in itself a political act, I ask. And are history and politics almost an obsession with Jewish writers, particular­ly Israeli writers? “For my people, history is not something that happens across the television screens. Violence; war; persecutio­n; antisemiti­sm; blood libels — those things changed the lives of my family, my ancestors and myself.” Oz, at 77, has an intensity, frankness, and brashness to his demeanour that is strangely intimidati­ng, though appealing and charismati­c, too. There is a moment in the novel where Shmuel and Gershom begin talking about Israel’s founding father and first Prime Minister, David Ben Gurion. Wald says: “I consider Ben Gurion the greatest Jewish leader of all time.” Does Oz concur? “We should be very careful of identifyin­g me here with this or that character,” the author insists, almost as though I am trying to draw him into a trap.

“There is an assembly of voices in this novel, and they collide and contradict each other.

“I merely wrote a piece of chamber music. It’s wrong to ask the composer after the concert: excuse me, are you behind the violin or the cello?

“I don’t completely agree with everything my characters say but there is a certain component of myself in each of their conflictin­g ideas.”

Oz points his finger at me, as though I have oversteppe­d the mark and continues: “So, please, don’t try to look for my bottom line in any one of my characters.”

He adds: “I can tell you my opinion about Ben Gurion. But we have to draw a very thick line between the discussion of my novel and the discussion about him specifical­ly.

“I think Ben Gurion was one of the greatest statesmen of all time, and not just in Jewish history.

“He was a sensitive man, who sensed that the Jewish people had the worst political cause in the world: no country, no power, and

no family of nations either.

“Jews never had genuine gutsy supporters. They were hated and despised throughout history by most. To navigate a vehicle, which initially had hardly any wheels, and seize a unique momentary opportunit­y to create a Jewish state: this is greatness.”

Ben Gurion’s strongest attribute, Oz insists, was his unique sense of timing, and the ability to distinguis­h between the possible and the impossible in the art of politics.

But surely he made many mistakes, too? What about Ben Gurion’s decision to form a special bond during the Cold War with the United States. Ultimately — many of Ben Gurion’s greatest critics have pointed out — this led to the creation of an Israeli state that became obsessed with military force.

Others claimed Ben Gurion had little sympathy for Palestinia­ns, with little interest in making peace.

“Like any statesman who [accomplish­ed great] things,” Ben Gurion made mistakes.” Oz admits. “Are there regrets in his record? Yes, there are. But he is one in a million. I think Israel owes its very existence to the vision and determinat­ion of this little man.”

Back to Judas, the topic of conflict between Arabs and Jews comes up frequently in the many conversati­ons between Shmuel and Gershom and, in one of these, Gershom mentions a radical intellectu­al friend of his who was often called a traitor for insisting that there surely must have been a deep historic basis for ties of sympathy and understand­ing between what were essentiall­y two victims of Christian Europe. Is this an idea that Oz agrees with?

There is a long pause before he answers.

“In an ideal world,” he says, “victims unite and march together. And yes, Jews and Arabs, in differ- ent ways, have both been victims of Europe.

“Europe suppressed the Arabs through imperialis­m, colonialis­m, exploitati­on and humiliatio­n.

“And the Jews were halted throughout Europe for thousands of years, through antisemiti­sm, the Inquisitio­n, pogroms, and then an unpreceden­ted genocide.”

“I wish this would have turned the Jews and Arabs into brothers and developed a sense of solidarity. But, as often happens with former victims of the same oppressor, they look at each other and they see the bad guy.”

In the novel, Shmuel also makes

You call someone Judas: you spit in his face’

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The Gospel account of Judas is ‘unlikely from a detective point of view’ according to Oz.
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