The Scotsman

‘There were things in me that I had to get out’

- Interview by Fiona Shepherd Dylan John Thomas is out now on Ignition Records; to watch the Scotsman Session, visit www.scotsman.com/artsand-culture

◆ The Scotsman Sessions reaches another milestone as we mark the 400th video performanc­e. Started in lockdown to support artists when venues were closed, the series continues to showcase the work of Scotland’s creative community. This week it is the turn of Glasgow-based singer-songwriter Dylan John Thomas.

The Scotsman Sessions reaches its 400th edition in the fine company of one of Scotland’s most accomplish­ed rising stars. Glasgow-based singer/songwriter Dylan John Thomas has just released his debut self-titled album, a bumper 13 tracks of well-kent tunes dispensed in just over 40 minutes.

For his burgeoning fanbase, the album is a document of the set they have sung along to at Thomas’s impressive six sold out Barrowland shows to date. For the uninitiate­d, it will be a journey of discovery taking in his influences, from mentor Gerry Cinnamon to Two Tone titans The Specials to the man (in black) who started it all, Johnny Cash.

Thomas grew up in care and came to his obsession with music through the video games he played in his foster homes. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater was a favourite, with Cash’s Ring of Fire featuring repeatedly on the soundtrack. “I remember jumping about the room singing it and that was the first proper memory I have of getting into music,” says Thomas. “It sparked something in me.”

Thomas asked for “a wee Argos guitar” for Christmas and set about learning to play the song, the first step on an ambitious, focused journey he characteri­ses as “a bit of graft and a bit of luck and meeting some nice people who can help you out”.

Thomas is a gifted player. His guitar heroes – Paul Simon, Lindsey Buckingham, Mark Knopfler – are all virtuosos but not the usual suspects. “I always lean towards the fingerpick­ing side of it,” he says.

“I know there are some great soloists out there but I was obsessed with how you could make your guitar sound like two guitars like the blues musicians where you had your thumb on the bass notes and were picking out your melodies on the higher strings. What I think is interestin­g is if you can then make that into a three-minute contempora­ry pop piece – songs like Romeo & Juliet and The Boxer. That’s what I got obsessed with – these techniques sitting within the structure of a standard pop song rather than a tenminute virtuoso piece.”

It is the songs which have sealed Thomas’s rising reputation as a troubadour – strong on melody and hooklines but with tightly plotted arrangemen­ts sparked to life by his band to create celebrator­y shows, whatever the subject matter of the lyrics.

Thomas is already way ahead of many of his contempora­ries in profile – not

many artists can sell out Barrowland before they have released an album

– but this is simply the fruition of a conscienti­ous plan hatched from his bedroom to be able to tour. As such, he is a ten-year overnight sensation who cut his teeth on the busking and open mic scenes of Glasgow.

“The idea was to do an apprentice­ship playing in front of people every day, trying to get rid of the nerves and shaky voice,” he says of his busking stints outside Marks & Spencer on Argyle Street.

From here, Thomas graduated to the open mic circuit in the city where he caught the ear of an older jobbing musician, Gerry Cinnamon. Cinnamon would go on to huge success, selling out two nights at Hampden Park, a rare feat for a solo performer, but he spotted a callow kindred spirit in Thomas.

“Growing up, I didn’t have anybody to speak to and Gerry saw that, this young boy jumping about the gigging scene, needing a bit of direction,” says Thomas. “He helped me figure out my way musically but also life in general. Having somebody there like Gerry who could look out for me, give me advice and take me under his wing, that was special.”

Thomas enhanced his skills on a sound production course at Riverside College, where he met bandmate Cam Robinson. Bassist Steven Liddle and keyboard player Liam Cassidy complete the line-up who accompanie­d Thomas on live adventures, building a following – including a lightning-fast sell-out at King Tut’s – until the pandemic hit. Forced off the road, the ever-industriou­s Thomas took the time to develop his songwritin­g, including confrontin­g his troubled childhood.

“It was going to come out one way or another and it’s better that it came out in a song,” he says. “For me it was probably the only way I was going to be able to process it.”

Unusually for an artist at his breaking level, Thomas continues to write entirely on his own, eschewing the co-writer route taken by many of his singersong­writer contempora­ries. “I had offers when I was younger of record deals asking me to go in with writers but I just wanted to write my own tunes because I knew there were things in me that I had to get out for my own release,” he says. “Some of the stuff I’m talking about I would find difficult to get out if I was in a room with somebody, especially talking about foster care.”

Even now, Thomas will not go into details of his experience­s in care but he lays it out candidly enough on album closer Wake Up Ma: “Fifteen foster homes, three meals a day, can't fill the hole left in my heart.”

As for his Scotsman Session, Thomas has chosen the more freewheeli­ng and optimistic former single Yesterday Is Gone, saying “I just like the tune. I was listening to a lot of synth music and watching a lot of Ryan Gosling films at the time!”

Having somebody there like Gerry who could look out for me, give me advice and take me under his wing, that was special

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