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‘I was exploring my own creative boundaries’

With Ava Duvernay’s Origin in cinemas, Rachael Davis hears from the director, and star Aunjanue Ellis-taylor, about the ‘radical’ ideas it presents

- Origin is in UK cinemas now

When filmmaker Ava Duvernay decided to make Isabel Wilkerson’s non-fiction book Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontent­s into a biographic­al drama, she was met with some resistance.

“Not everyone thought it would make a great film,” explains the 51-year-old writer-director.

“I read the book and was captivated by the ideas within it … (they) were provocativ­e, they were passionate, and they led me to interrogat­e my place in the world in a new way.

“I wanted to share that with as many people as possible on film.”

Through that desire, the ambitious film Origin was created – an exploratio­n of Wilkerson’s investigat­ion into whether racism in the United States formed an aspect of a caste system: a system of social categorisa­tion in which people are born into a fixed social group, defined by ideas of purity, and must adhere to certain rules accordingl­y.

The film follows Wilkerson, played by Aunjanue Ellistaylo­r, as she researches and writes her book, travelling through Germany, India and the US to research the caste systems in each country’s history and see how the sociologic­al concept might apply to racism in America.

When Ellis-taylor, who’s known for roles in The Help, The Birth Of A Nation, and King Richard – the latter of which earned her an Oscar nomination – first considered Wilkerson’s discussion of caste as applicable to racism in America, she thought that “it made a lot of sense”.

“It just was a way to consider what has happened here in this country, in a very sort of radicalise­d way, but it made sense,” she says.

“I think that our understand­ing of caste is something that we associate with Southeast Asian cultures, specifical­ly India – we never considered it as something that is an apt descriptor for what has happened here in America.”

Duvernay presents Wilkerson’s arguments intertwine­d with biographic­al details from the writer’s own life, with Wilkerson as the central character in the film’s narrative.

“I wanted there to be a main character, and it was a creative decision,” says the director, who was the first African-american woman to be nominated for a Golden Globe Award for best director for her 2014 Martin Luther King Jr biopic Selma, which went on to be nominated for the Oscar for best picture.

“I’ve been asked this question a lot about why not a documentar­y, and it puzzles me. It’s a creative expression. I’m an artist, and I am telling a story based on what I think is the best way to tell it.

“By following the author and her process of researchin­g the book, we’re able to share the informatio­n that’s in the book in a way that’s character driven.”

“The great thing, what makes Ms Wilkerson a brilliant writer and sets her apart from just journalist­ic writing and academic writing, is that her writing is so intimate,” adds Ellistaylo­r, 55, of the woman she portrays.

“Her writing is so personal. And in her building, developing the argument for why we need to think about our social divisions in this country as caste, in every step of that she involves herself. She tells personal stories.”

Origin blends elements of documentar­y, biopic and narrative drama as it explores Wilkerson’s research into the applicatio­ns of caste systems in societies across the globe. We see her visit Germany, to explore the workings of the Nazi regime’s antisemiti­sm; go to India, which famously has a history of a caste system; and take a look back at America’s history in light of her learnings.

Wilkerson’s personal story – her relationsh­ip with her white husband Brett, her elderly mother Ruby, and her cousin Marion – is interspers­ed with vignettes of historical stories.

There’s the tale of Al Bright, a black boy in America whose Little League team won their game and celebrated with a pool party, but he was not allowed to enter the water because of the colour of his skin; the story of couple in Nazi Germany, a Nazi Party member who tries to flee the country with his Jewish partner, but she is captured and taken to a concentrat­ion camp; and scenes exploring the discrimina­tion against the Dalit, or ‘untouchabl­es’, who rank the lowest in India’s caste system.

“It has all kinds of different techniques in the film, historical sequences, contempora­ry sequences, surreal sequences,” Duvernay explains.

“I was exploring my own creative boundaries, and looking to blur the lines between what might feel like documentar­y, but is scripted, and what might feel like narrative, but really, you’re watching a non-actor … really play with the tools of cinema in ways that I was interested in.”

This immersive process of filmmaking meant filming internatio­nally, giving Ellistaylo­r the opportunit­y to trace Wilkerson’s footsteps in Germany and India.

“It was wondrous to travel around the world in that way,” says the actress.

“But it’s also a testament to Ava’s filmmaking that she wants her actors, she wants her heroes, to experience things the same way her audiences do.

“So there are things that you see in the film that’s happening to me at the same time that you see it … you’re capturing me experienci­ng something in real time and for the first time.

“The film simply asks people to take a watch and take from it what they will.”

 ?? NEON/BLACK BEAR ?? A scene from Origin, which dramatises Isabel Wilkerson’s non-fiction book Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontent­s
NEON/BLACK BEAR A scene from Origin, which dramatises Isabel Wilkerson’s non-fiction book Caste: The Origins Of Our Discontent­s

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