The Scotsman

‘Falling in love is not a game, it’s about real life’

◆ Best-selling Irish novelist Marian Keyes tells Hannah Stephenson about celebratin­g anniversar­ies of writing, marriage and quitting booze

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She may call herself an “ordinary alcoholic” but there’s nothing ordinary about global bestsellin­g novelist Marian Keyes, whose contempora­ry tales of relationsh­ips, family and the ups and downs of life have earned her millions of fans.

In January she celebrated 30 years of sobriety, feeling “pride, pleasure and delight”, posting a heartfelt Instagram message to those who are struggling with alcohol issues. She still goes to support meetings regularly.

“I’m just an ordinary alcoholic, trying my best to stay sober one day at a time,” she says. “It doesn’t go away. It’s not like, you have cancer and then you get cured and you’re grand. But [meetings] work for me.”

There are other landmark anniversar­ies and events – a portrait of her was recently unveiled at the National Gallery of Ireland, she’s about to celebrate 30 years as a published author and last year she hit 60, although she doesn’t feel her age, she insists. “I felt fine at the time because I’ve never minded about getting older. I’ve always felt that as I’ve got older, life has got easier in terms of what people expect from women. Becoming invisible has definitely got a lot going for it. I’ve felt weird in that I feel much younger than 60 and in a way that my life is still waiting to start. I realise people don’t grow out of this. I think one day I’ll feel like I’ve arrived. Sixty was the age women were put out to grass, 60 sounds older than it actually is. It’s not what it was 30 years ago. You know, it’s youthful now. Between HRT and the fish oils, I feel younger than 60.”

Next year she will celebrate 30 years since her debut novel, Watermelon, was published. Her array of bestsellin­g novels since then includes Rachel’s Holiday, Grown Ups and This Charming Man.

Keyes feels grateful for all that she has, both in her career and her personal life. “I feel amazed and incredibly lucky to have been published and allowed to keep doing this for so long,” she says.

Keyes, who lives in Dublin with her husband Tony Baines, seems genuinely flummoxed as to why her novels – contempora­ry romantic tales peppered with her trademark wit, but often covering heavier themes including addiction, depression and bereavemen­t – have become multimilli­on sellers that have stood the test of time. “I can only go on what other people tell me, that I write with warmth, and I’m truthful, honest and authentic in my characters, and people find that comforting.”

Her latest book, My Favourite Mistake, sees fortysomet­hing Anna Walsh throwing away her dream life and highflying career as a beauty PR executive in New York, and ditching her partner, to return to friends and family

in Ireland. Anna tries to help her friend Brigit set up a luxury wellness retreat in the face of staunch opposition by locals, and sets out to uncover who is sabotaging the work site. Meanwhile, Anna’s past relationsh­ip with her guarded colleague Joey keeps the reader guessing – he seems like a shifty character who doesn’t do relationsh­ips.

Keyes admits that she went through her fair share of unsuitable boyfriends in her twenties when she was at the height of her alcoholism and struggled with self respect.

“It’s always presented as something fun and nice but after I got sober, I thought,

why on earth would I spend time with someone who is unreliable and mean? Falling in love is not a game, it’s about real life, thinking, can I live with this person? Do I care about them, do I want to mind them, do I trust them, are they kind to me?”

Enter Baines, her husband of almost 30 years, who she knew through friends while she was still drinking. She recalls the moment she realised that he was ‘the one’. “It was eight months after we started spending time together, and he came to collect me from work. I remember waiting at the door, the rain had just stopped.

“And he appeared round the corner, right on time. I was looking at him thinking, ‘He’s beautiful, and he’s lovely to

me and we have so much fun’. That was it. He didn’t let me down. He’s reliable, he’s kind, he’s clever. He is very different to me. He is whatever the opposite of an addict is. He’s moderate in his habits. But in other things, we are very aligned on our views on the world.”

As for turning 60, Keyes says she doesn’t particular­ly take better care of herself physically.

“I’m rubbish at it. We’re supposed to be lifting weights and making our bones strong and eating a particular diet. Well, I don’t. I eat far too much chocolate and sweets. The only exercise I do is I run on a treadmill because it makes me feel happy.” She runs around 8km every other day, having started during lockdown. “It

kept my head straight and my body anxiety-free.”

To maintain her mental health, she’s careful about not taking too much on. “I don’t have the energy that I used to have and I find it unnatural to talk about oneself at length,” she says. “It makes me feel not good and then I start worrying about what I’ve said.”

Keyes says she no longer feels herself slipping into depression because she looks after her mental health better and has learned to say no.

“I’m not going there again. It was awful and I don’t think I’d have the stamina to survive another go.”

My Favourite Mistake by Marian Keyes is published by Penguin Michael Joseph, priced £22

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PICTURE: ALAMY/PA Warm and witty Marian Keyes is celebratin­g three decades of sobriety, marriage and being a published author
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