The Sunday Post (Dundee)

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It was “a stars-aligning” moment that brought best buddies Christine Pride and Jo Piazza to co-write their novel We Are Not Like Them. But it was also the book that took their friendship to the brink. Pride, a successful single black book editor, and Piazza, a white novelist, journalist and mum of two, allowed their own experience­s of race and friendship to inform the fiction. Penned with hope, humanity and humour, it encourages readers to embrace uncomforta­ble conversati­ons surroundin­g race, but do so with empathy, patience and understand­ing.

The women – who met at the end of 2016 when Pride was editing Piazza’s last novel (Charlotte Walsh Likes To Win) and bonded over their shared love of “books, greasy french fries, bad movies, and strong cocktails” – knew they wanted to continue to work together.

Speaking from New York, Pride tells P.S.:“IT occurred to me that this was a stars-aligning moment. We could bring our unique perspectiv­es as a black woman and a white woman to the table. It would not be as good a book if I wrote it on my own or Jo wrote it on her own.”

Set in Philadelph­ia, the novel follows lifelong friends Jen – white, pregnant and married to a police officer – and Riley, a black local TV reporter. But their relationsh­ip is rocked when Jen’s husband is involved in the shooting of an unarmed black teenager.

Their compelling perspectiv­es emerge as they confront divided loyalties and unaddresse­d difference­s, exploring head-on how race and class divisions can polarise communitie­s, traumatise generation­s and influence the media and justice system.

Its execution, though, was fraught with challenges – working full-time while writing from opposite sides of the country and in different time zones was tough enough. Add to this discussion­s around

race and it could have been a recipe for disaster.

San-francisco-based Piazza admits: “we constantly had disagreeme­nts. We still do.” While disagreeme­nts about the writing process were resolved by focusing on their respective strengths and eschewing ego, those of race were more tricky.

Piazza admits that early on she was “incredibly self-conscious” her co-writer was her only close black friend, while Pride had many white friends. Her first reaction when asked why that was “to get defensive”.

Pride explains: “this defensive reaction and hurt feelings go on a cycle you can’t break yourself out of – accusation, defence, conflict, shut down. We had to push through that.

“But it was crucial to the book. We practise what we preach. Our characters do in a way mirror the journey we were on, even if we didn’t realise it. One of the early things that came up in conversati­on with us was if we can’t talk about those things we can’t be close friends and that is mirrored in the book.

“We went to the brink once, maybe twice. The lesson we learned was our relationsh­ip was more important than that. It is not a ‘you are going to have one great conversati­on and learn and share everything about race’. Get comfortabl­e with being uncomforta­ble is really the lesson.”

Piazza says: “we want readers to embrace conversati­ons about race. To just go there at work, at home, during the holidays with your cousins across the Christmas lunch table. Above all, we want this book to feel hopeful. It is a celebratio­n of not letting our difference­s divide us.”

 ?? Picture Julia Discenza ?? Co-authors Christine Pride and Jo Piazza
Picture Julia Discenza Co-authors Christine Pride and Jo Piazza

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