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A family fights with sperm donor to keep daughters

- By Meredith Blake Los Angeles Times

Robin Young and Sandy Russo wanted to start a family of their own when it was virtually unheard of for same-sex parents to raise children together.

So they did: Using sperm donors, they had two daughters, Cade and Ry Russoyoung, in 1980 and 1981. For several years, Russo and Young maintained a friendly relationsh­ip with Ry’s biological father, Tom Steel, a lawyer in San Francisco who’d fought for LGBTQ rights, even vacationin­g with Steel and his partner.

But, as chronicled in Ry Russo-young’s three-part docuseries “Nuclear Family,” which concluded Sunday on HBO, the families had a falling out: Steel shocked Russo and Young by suing for paternity and visitation rights in 1991, triggering a legal case that dragged on for years and caused intense emotional distress for all.

For Russo-young, 39, who grew up making home movies and eventually became a filmmaker, the story once seemed fit for a fictional feature — but when she tried writing the screenplay, she said, she “realized that I still had questions.”

Despite her reluctance to make a documentar­y then, Russo-young decided nonfiction was the best way to gt answers. She began to gather materials — home movies, legal documents, family photos, archival news footage — and interviewe­d family, friends and others involved in the lawsuit.

Russo-young and her parents, speaking by video conference from their respective homes in Los Angeles and New York City, told the L.A. Times about how the experience changed their views on the case, preparing for a particular­ly difficult interview in the final episode and the story’s future as a scripted series. Q: Ry, you go on something of a journey over the course of the series. Did you expect your perspectiv­e to change the way it did?

Ry Russo-young: I didn’t expect my perspectiv­e to change. And I don’t think it has changed that much, actually. I think it was in some ways a grand exercise in empathy. I understand more deeply where everyone was coming from. My family is still my family. And I’ve always viewed my moms and my sister as my family, but I’m able to sit with empathy for Tom and be OK with that, as well as the feelings of betrayal and resentment and sadness.

Q: I’m curious about how you approached having intense family conversati­ons on camera, and how you navigated the relationsh­ip between filmmaker and subject given your relationsh­ips?

Sandy Russo: We trusted Ry implicitly. We knew that she wasn’t going to throws zingers at us. She’s a director, so she knew how to put us at ease before the cameras started rolling. Sometimes we just forgot that the camera was there.

Robin Young: A lot of her childhood, college years and beyond, she just had a camera rolling. So we were pretty used to her sitting with a camera. Even though this was a little more intense.

Ry Russo-young: Robin and Russo are incredibly natural and amazing storytelle­rs. And I think that comes across. There’s a lack of self-consciousn­ess. That’s why I felt that they would make such strong lead subjects and why the series begins with them and their love story. As people they’re funny, they’re hopeful, they’re dynamic and completely unapologet­ic about who they are. I couldn’t have asked for better subjects.

Q: For the parents, was it triggering to have to relive any of this?

Robin Young: It was difficult to relive it for both of us. There would be nights after doing interviews, where we would be up all night feeling like we were back in the case, relitigati­ng it in our minds. And then watching the film, the first time we saw it, it was a shock, and we had to step back and calm down.

Sandy Russo: Even before the filming, Ry was asking for materials. We had saved everything from the law case, every document, you name it, there were boxes and boxes of boxes. And then she asked us also to go through all our family photos from before she was even born. We were so deep into it. It all seemed so vivid. It came right back at us. Robin Young: Which is what made it so hard.

Q: What would you want people to understand about this period, which doesn’t seem so long ago, and the peril that you felt at the time?

Robin Young: There is nothing scarier than being threatened with losing your children. It’s really that basic. And that threat was there. And it was real. And it was just terrifying.

Q: Something I found upsetting was the way the case pitted a gay man against a lesbian couple at a time, during the AIDS crisis, when one hopes you would have been allies.

Sandy Russo: It was tragic. And we did feel like allies. In the beginning, when he was willing to donate sperm for us to enlarge our family, I think we were on the same side, and we were appreciati­ve of his willingnes­s to play this role. And then he just made horrible choices. We just had to defend against that.

Robin Young: There’s stuff in the film about how he didn’t want to be erased, but then it’s just like, no — he self-erased, in a sense, when he ruined the relationsh­ip. It was tragic that he was a gay man who would make these arguments in court and it was tragic on a superperso­nal level as well.

Q: For the moms, did your point of view change or evolve over the process of making and watching the series?

Sandy Russo: Because of those conversati­ons, we grew much closer, if that was possible — understand­ing more clearly what the kids went through and Ry’s complicate­d battle, between the two poles that were pulling at her, the anger and disappoint­ment and rememberin­g these warm moments with him. He was wonderful and Ry loved him. But he didn’t help himself in a way that allowed this relationsh­ip to continue.

Robin Young: I think that we still hate him for what he did our kids. He tortured them for years. It went on for years and at any time, he could have made the decision to stop and he just didn’t. He kept going. So that hasn’t changed.

But what has changed is our seeing Ry evolve on the subject, and being able to hold all of those emotions at once in her heart, the pain and the love, the betrayal, all of it. It has given us huge respect for Ry and, and made us appreciate her more. And she’s able to express all of that in the film, and the depth of our love and the complicati­on of it all is just amazing to us.

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