Albuquerque Journal

Sources: Mueller raised subpoena option with Trump’s legal team

Testy meeting set in motion turmoil among attorneys

- BY CAROL D. LEONNIG AND ROBERT COSTA

WASHINGTON — In a tense meeting in early March with the special counsel, President Donald Trump’s lawyers insisted he had no obligation to talk with federal investigat­ors probing Russia’s interferen­ce in the 2016 presidenti­al campaign.

But Special Counsel Robert Mueller responded that he had another option if Trump declined: He could issue a subpoena for the president to appear before a grand jury, according to four people familiar with the encounter.

Mueller’s warning — the first time he is known to have mentioned a possible subpoena to Trump’s legal team — spurred a sharp retort from John Dowd, then the president’s lead lawyer.

“This isn’t some game,” Dowd said, according to two people with knowledge of his comments. “You are screwing with the work of the president of the United States.”

The flare-up set in motion weeks of turmoil among Trump’s attorneys as they debated how to deal with the special counsel’s request for an interview, a dispute that ultimately led to Dowd’s resignatio­n.

In the wake of the testy March 5 meeting, Mueller’s team agreed to provide the president’s lawyers with more specific informatio­n about the subjects that prosecutor­s wished to discuss with the president. With those details in hand, Trump lawyer Jay Sekulow compiled a list of 49 questions that the team believed the president would be asked, according to three of the four people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk publicly. The New York Times first reported the existence of the list.

The questions focus on events during the Trump campaign, transition and presidency that have long known to be under scrutiny, including the president’s reasons for firing then-FBI Director James Comey and the pressure he put on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to resign.

Now Trump’s newly reconfigur­ed legal team is pondering how to address the special counsel’s queries, all while assessing the potential evidence of obstructio­n that Mueller might present and contending with a client who has grown increasing­ly opposed to sitting down with the special counsel.

Without a resolution on the interview, the standoff could turn into a historic confrontat­ion before the Supreme Court over a presidenti­al subpoena.

Sekulow and Dowd declined to comment. Joshua Stueve, a spokesman for the special counsel, declined to comment.

The president has repeatedly decried the investigat­ion as a “witch hunt.”

“Oh, I see... you have a made up, phony crime, Collusion, that never existed, and an investigat­ion begun with illegally leaked classified informatio­n. Nice!” Trump tweeted Tuesday.

Trump’s remade legal team is now led by former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, who told The Washington Post on Tuesday that he views Mueller as the utmost profession­al, but is still reviewing documents and considerin­g conditions he might set before deciding whether to recommend that Trump agree to an interview.

“Hopefully we’re getting near the end. We all on both sides have some important decisions to make,” Giuliani said. “I still have a totally open mind on what the right strategy is, which we’ll develop in the next few weeks.”

Some legal experts believe that two Justice Department opinions prohibit federal prosecutor­s, including Mueller, from charging a president with a crime.

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