Albuquerque Journal

Giuliani: No Mueller interview without informant informatio­n

President wants access to the material presented at briefing

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WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s legal team would advise that he refuse to submit to an interview with special counsel Robert Mueller unless the team can review classified informatio­n shared with lawmakers about the origins of the FBI investigat­ion into Russia’s election meddling, Trump’s lawyer said Sunday.

Rudy Giuliani said if Mueller’s investigat­ors seek a court order to compel the president to testify, his lawyers will fight it all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court. “I think we win it,” Giuliani said.

Giuliani downplayed chances Trump would fire Mueller, or dismiss anyone if the investigat­ion keeps going.

Giuliani’s negotiatio­n over interview terms focuses on a government informant who approached members of Trump’s 2016 campaign to glean intelligen­ce on Russian efforts to sway his race against Democrat Hillary Clinton. Trump claims FBI misconduct and political bias and has denounced the informant as a spy.

Two meetings with select lawmakers, held last week, were requested by Congress. After the meetings, which included Justice Department, FBI officials, congressio­nal leaders from both parties and Democratic and Republican leaders of the intelligen­ce committees, Democrats said they saw no evidence to support Republican allegation­s that the FBI acted inappropri­ately.

Nonetheles­s, Giuliani said the Trump camp wants access to the material presented at those briefings to help prepare the president for a possible interview with Mueller.

“If they don’t show us these documents, well, we are just going to have to say no,” Giuliani said.

Giuliani also said Trump was “adamant” about wanting to agree to an interview, saying, “If he wasn’t thinking about it and it wasn’t an active possibilit­y, we would be finished with that by now and we would have moved on to getting the investigat­ion over with another way.”

The new wrinkle, he said, is the informant disclosure.

“We are more convinced, as we see it, that this is a rigged investigat­ion. Now we have this whole new ‘Spygate’ thing thrown on top of it, on top of already very legitimate questions,” he said.

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