Albuquerque Journal

Giuliani explains ‘truth isn’t truth’

Trump lawyer says contradict­ions not always resolved

- BY JOHN WAGNER THE WASHINGTON POST

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s lawyer Rudolph Giuliani on Monday sought to clarify his head-scratching assertion over the weekend that “truth isn’t truth,” writing in a morning tweet that he was referring to instances where two people make contradict­ory statements.

“My statement was not meant as a pontificat­ion on moral theology but one referring to the situation where two people make precisely contradict­ory statements, the classic ‘he said she said’ puzzle,” Giuliani said. “Sometimes further inquiry can reveal the truth; other times it doesn’t.”

Giuliani’s attempt at clarificat­ion was prompted by an appearance Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” during which he and host Chuck Todd discussed the circumstan­ces under which Trump would submit to an interview by special counsel Robert Mueller.

Giuliani continued to argue that Mueller is trying to trap Trump into committing perjury as part of an investigat­ion into whether the president has obstructed the probe of Russian interferen­ce in the 2016 presidenti­al election.

“When you tell me that (Trump) should testify because he’s going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, that’s so silly — because it’s somebody’s version of the truth. Not the truth,” Giuliani said.

Todd responded, “Truth is truth.”

“No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth,” Giuliani said.

The exchange was heavily featured on Monday morning news shows, with pundits comparing Giuliani’s assertion with White House adviser Kellyanne Conway saying earlier during Trump’s tenure that then-press secretary Sean Spicer had presented “alternativ­e facts.”

Giuliani has said he fears Mueller would be more inclined to rely on testimony provided by former FBI director James Comey, whom Trump fired, than that of the president. If so, Giuliani has said, Trump could be accused of perjury even if he’s telling the truth.

Following Giuliani’s Sunday appearance on “Meet the Press,” Comey took to Twitter, writing: “Truth exists and truth matters.”

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