Albuquerque Journal

Bombing suspect reportedly changed

Past co-worker: no sign of racism, homophobia

- BY TERRY SPENCER AND ELLIS RUA

FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Thirteen years ago, mail bomb suspect Cesar Sayoc traveled the country leading a mixed-race troupe of male exotic dancers. A fellow dancer who is African-American said he ran scams and had a temper, but he never expressed racism or homophobia.

Years later, working as a pizza driver, Sayoc would often express hatred for minorities, Jews and gay people, his manager said. He drove a van plastered with stickers supporting President Donald Trump, criticizin­g media outlets and showing rifle crosshairs over liberals like Hillary Clinton and filmmaker Michael Moore. But she kept him around, even though she is a lesbian, because he was honest and dependable, and never got into fights.

Why Sayoc changed so radically over the years remains a mystery, but to those who know him, there seems little question that he did.

“We were friends, we were boys, we traveled in the same van, slept in the same room,” said former dancer David Crosby, who is black. “When I think of the guy I knew and the guy I see now on MSNBC, CNN and at Trump rallies, I think, ‘Did he really slip?’” He thinks Trump’s sometimes bombastic criticism of liberals may have pushed Sayoc over the edge .

“He really wasn’t a bad guy,” a puzzled Crosby said.

But former pizza restaurant manager Debra Gureghian said that while Sayoc originally came across as respectful, articulate and polite, within days a dark side emerged and he told her he was disgusted by her sexuality.

“I was an abominatio­n, I was God’s misfit … I was a mistake,” Gureghian said of her former employee, who quit his job earlier this year. Sayoc thought she “should burn in hell with Ellen DeGeneres and Rachel Maddow … and President Obama and Hillary Clinton.”

Sayoc, 56, was arrested Friday near Fort Lauderdale and is charged federally with mailing at least 13 mail bombs to prominent Democrat officehold­er and other frequent targets of conservati­ve ire, including former President Barack Obama, former Vice President Joe Biden, former presidenti­al candidate Hillary Clinton and the cable network CNN. He is scheduled to make his first court appearance Monday.

That radicalism is a stark contrast to the mid-2000s, when Sayoc managed and performed with two male-dancer revues — “Men of Steel” and “American Hunks.” He never expressed political views back then, Crosby said.

“I don’t know if he was a Democrat or Republican,” said Crosby, who now runs a gym and is a comedian near Minneapoli­s.

Along with three or four other chiseled men, Crosby and Sayoc traveled the country by van, stripping to G-strings for screaming women in honkytonks and nightclubs. They would check into a motel, perform, bring women back to party, sleep a few hours and then get up early the next morning to drive several hours to the next gig.

Sayoc hosted, then danced last. Crosby said he and the other all-but-naked dancers would bring women up on stage, make them and their friends laugh and engage in some sexual innuendo — except Sayoc, who wasn’t a good performer.

He said Sayoc would have women sit in a chair, get between their legs and drive his pelvis into theirs hard — “bang, bang.” Crosby said women would complain to the other dancers that Sayoc was too rough, but no one ever called the police.

He said Sayoc had a “zero to 100” temper. Still, he never saw Sayoc hit anyone and he treated his employees well — though he would sometimes scam the shows’ financial backers.

Twelve years later, however, when Sayoc worked for Gureghian at New River Pizza in Fort Lauderdale, honesty and reliabilit­y were his jobsaving attributes.

But until he quit earlier this year, he regularly subjected co-workers to fiery political rants. Gureghian called his views “pure hatred.” He detested liberals, blacks, Jews and especially gays, Gureghian said.

Gureghian said Sayoc used his van for deliveries and one rainy night he offered her a ride home.

Sayoc lived in his van and Gureghian said it was a mess.

And, ominously, there were dolls with their heads cut off.

“He told me he was fixing them for his two nieces,” Gureghian said.

 ?? BRYNN ANDERSON/ASSOCIATED PRESS ?? Debra Gureghian, manager at New River Pizza and former employer of Cesar Sayoc, poses for a portrait Saturday in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Gureghian hired Sayoc as a delivery driver at the restaurant.
BRYNN ANDERSON/ASSOCIATED PRESS Debra Gureghian, manager at New River Pizza and former employer of Cesar Sayoc, poses for a portrait Saturday in Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Gureghian hired Sayoc as a delivery driver at the restaurant.

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