Albuquerque Journal

Judiciary takes over impeachmen­t probe

House intelligen­ce committee releases last transcript­s

- BY MARY CLARE JALONICK AND LISA MASCARO ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON — The House Judiciary Committee is set to take over the impeachmen­t investigat­ion of President Donald Trump, Democrats said Tuesday, scheduling a hearing for next week as they push closer to a possible vote on actual charges of “high crimes and misdemeano­rs.”

The Judiciary panel scheduled the hearing as the separate Intelligen­ce Committee released two last transcript­s from its deposition­s, including from a White House budget official who detailed concerns among colleagues as Trump ordered them, through intermedia­ries, to put a hold on military aid to Ukraine.

Trump ordered the hold as he was pressuring Ukraine’s president to investigat­e Democrats — the issue at the heart of the impeachmen­t probe. Multiple government witnesses testified in impeachmen­t hearings held by the Intelligen­ce panel this month that Trump directed his personal lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, to take the lead on Ukraine policy and that Giuliani pushed an “irregular” diplomatic channel.

The Intelligen­ce Committee

is wrapping up the investigat­ive phase of the probe and preparing its report for the next. Committee Chairman Adam Schiff has said the report could be released soon after the House returns from its Thanksgivi­ng break.

The initial Judiciary hearing on Dec. 4, the day after lawmakers return, will feature legal experts who will examine questions of constituti­onal grounds as the panel decides whether to write articles of impeachmen­t against Trump — and if so what those articles will be.

Trump, meanwhile, tried to put distance between himself and Giuliani in a radio interview Tuesday. Asked by host Bill O’Reilly what Giuliani was doing on his behalf in Ukraine, Trump said, “I don’t even know,” adding that Giuliani had canceled one trip and had other clients as well.

Asked directly if he had directed Giuliani to go to Ukraine on his behalf, Trump said, “No.”

In a phone call to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy on July 25, Trump had said several times he would have Giuliani contact Zelenskiy. “Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very capable guy,” Trump said to Zelenskiy, according to a rough transcript released by the White House.

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