Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

TRUMP LAWYERS reject Mueller interview offer.

Counter-proposal reported

- COMPILED BY DEMOCRAT-GAZETTE STAFF FROM WIRE REPORTS Informatio­n for this article was contribute­d by Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman of The New York Times; and by Eric Tucker of The Associated Press.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump’s lawyers rejected the special counsel’s latest terms for an interview in the Russia investigat­ion, countering Wednesday with an offer that suggested a narrow path for answering questions, people familiar with the matter said.

The letter marked the latest back and forth in the eight months of negotiatio­ns between Trump’s lawyers and the special counsel, Robert Mueller. Last week, Mueller proposed a slightly altered format to the expansive interview he wants to conduct with the president.

Trump’s lawyers did not reject an interview outright but included the narrower counteroff­er, one person familiar with the response said. However, Trump’s lawyers do not want him answering questions about whether he obstructed justice, according to the person, who did not want to be named describing the private negotiatio­ns and spoke on condition of anonymity.

Jay Sekulow, one of Trump’s personal lawyers, confirmed that a response was sent.

“I’m not going to disclose what we told the special counsel, but needless to say, we didn’t accept their offer,” Sekulow told Fox News on Wednesday night.

Rudy Giuliani, another lawyer for Trump, also declined to go into detail during an appearance Wednesday night on Fox News Channel’s Hannity. He said Trump’s team had offered Mueller “an opportunit­y to do a form of questionin­g.”

Giuliani said Mueller “knows the answers to every question that he wants to ask” Trump and speculated that the special counsel wants to “trap him into perjury.”

Earlier, Giuliani said millions of pages of documents have been provided to Mueller along with testimony from dozens of witnesses.

“We’re restating what we have been saying for months: It is time for the Office of Special Counsel to conclude its inquiry without further delay.”

The response indicated how far apart the two sides remain. Mueller wants to question the president on a range of issues, chiefly his associates’ contacts with Russia; possible coordinati­on between his campaign and Moscow’s election interferen­ce; and the intent behind presidenti­al actions that could be construed as attempts to obstruct the inquiry, including firing the FBI director.

But the president’s lawyers are concerned that if he is interviewe­d, Trump could perjure himself. That concern is in part driving the continuing negotiatio­ns. They had been prepared last week to tell Mueller that Trump would decline an interview, but the president, who believes he can convince Mueller that he is innocent, pushed his lawyers to continue negotiatin­g.

By making another counterpro­posal after months of promises that they were only weeks away from deciding about an interview, Trump’s lawyers run the risk that Mueller could conclude they are negotiatin­g in bad faith to prolong the investigat­ion. In a meeting with Trump’s lawyers this year, Mueller threatened to take the extraordin­ary step of subpoenain­g the president to testify before a grand jury if he did not sit for a voluntary interview.

Only one modern president, Bill Clinton, has been subpoenaed for testimony while in office; he eventually agreed to a voluntary interview to avoid a prolonged court fight. The Supreme Court has never decided whether a sitting president can be subpoenaed for testimony.

Law enforcemen­t officials who have worked with Mueller — a longtime federal prosecutor and the head of the FBI from 2001 to 2013 — believe that he will try to use every tool he has to get the president to answer questions and that he will probably subpoena him to testify if he does not agree to be questioned voluntaril­y.

Some of Trump’s lawyers believe that Mueller will not subpoena their client out of fear of losing a court fight that could undermine the investigat­ion’s legitimacy to the public.

The president’s lawyers have said they would fight a subpoena — a battle that could eventually be decided by the Supreme Court.

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