Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

STARR’S ‘COURT’ comment gives House ammo in suit over grand jury material from Mueller investigat­ion.

- ANN E. MARIMOW

WASHINGTON — Attorneys for House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., are using the words of the president’s own legal team, and attorney Ken Starr, to try to undercut the Trump administra­tion’s position in a pending lawsuit over access to secret grand jury materials that Democrats are seeking.

During the defense presentati­on in the impeachmen­t trial of President Donald Trump on Monday, Starr, the former independen­t counsel who is part of Trump’s team, reminded senators that they do not sit as jurors and are in fact a “court.”

“History teaches us that for literally decades, this body was referred to in this context as the high court of impeachmen­t,” said Starr, whose investigat­ion formed the basis of the impeachmen­t trial of former President Bill Clinton. “So we are not a legislativ­e chamber during these proceeding­s. We are in a tribunal. We are in court.”

Trump administra­tion lawyers have been arguing the opposite in a pending lawsuit, House lawyers told the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit in a new filing Tuesday.

In court, the Justice Department has argued that a Senate impeachmen­t trial is not a “judicial proceeding” and therefore is not exempt from secrecy rules that shield grand jury materials from disclosure.

“That argument has now been contradict­ed by the president’s counsel’s statements to the Senate, which confirm that the Senate sits as a ‘court’ rather than a ‘legislativ­e chamber’ during an impeachmen­t trial,” according to the filing from House general counsel Douglas Letter.

House Democrats have said they need the secret material from the Russia investigat­ion of former special counsel Robert Mueller to determine whether the president lied in his written answers to Mueller’s investigat­ion and to try to establish a pattern of alleged obstructio­n by the president as part of the impeachmen­t proceeding­s.

In response Tuesday, the Justice Department stood by its position that there is no exception for impeachmen­t in the rules to the secrecy shield and that the courts should stay out of a political dispute.

“The rule does not contemplat­e impeachmen­t proceeding­s, regardless of the terminolog­y the Senate employs,” according to the filing from Department of Justice lawyer Mark Freeman.

Debate underway in the Senate trial about which evidence lawmakers should consider “underscore­s the oddity” of the House Democrats’ view that courts, rather than the Senate itself, should decide whether there is a “particular­ized need” for certain evidence, Freeman said.

He urged the judges not to serve as “gatekeeper­s” when it comes to questions of evidence in the Senate impeachmen­t trial.

The appeals court is reviewing a decision by Chief U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell who ruled in October that the House was legally engaged in a judicial process that exempts Congress from secrecy rules that shield grand jury material.

Howell had called “extreme” the Justice Department’s position that despite legal rulings during the impeachmen­t inquiry into Richard Nixon, courts in 1974 should not have given Congress materials from the Watergate grand jury.

The appeals court panel could rule at any time.

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