Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

Stuffed to the gills

Declutteri­ng expert helps people who just can’t help themselves.

- JURA KONCIUS

At age 25, Matt Paxton cleared out the homes of four relatives who died within months of one another. The painful experience of sorting through lifetimes of possession­s and memories was life-changing. He went on to have a career as an extreme-cleaning specialist and profession­al downsizer who now appears on two TV series about people dealing with an overflow of stuff.

Yes, many things need to go. But Paxton’s personal experience made him realize that hidden in those old filing cabinets and dusty shoe boxes are also memories that need to be acknowledg­ed and preserved.

“When we clean out our attics, we relive lives,” says Paxton, who now has 20 years of experience helping others sort through their homes or family estates. A veteran of A&E’s “Hoarders,” Paxton, 45, uses his own show, “Legacy List With Matt Paxton,” on PBS to help a diverse group of families uncover the history of their most important items and figure out what the heck to do with them.

“Legacy List” — “keep the memories, lose the stuff” — travels to the homes of people who are downsizing or moving. It’s a combinatio­n of “Antiques Roadshow” and “Finding Your Roots,” with a touch of the

sparking joy of “Tidying Up with Marie Kondo.” Paxton arrives with his crew — experts on antiques, pop culture, fashion and military memorabili­a — and helps homeowners identify sentimenta­l items as they declutter and pack. “If your house was going to burn down, what are the four or five most important things that you would want to take with you?” Paxton asks. The answers have included a whaling harpoon, a POW bracelet from the Vietnam War era and a long-lost secret family recipe for a white sauce.

TAKE STOCK OF POSSESSION­S

Season 2 of “Legacy List” launched this month against the backdrop of the coronaviru­s pandemic, which has focused even more attention on the need for baby boomers to take stock of their possession­s. During the pandemic, many Americans have reclaimed stuffed closets and basements, turning up lost family documents and forgotten mementos. It can be challengin­g to decide whether to keep, sell or toss items, or to find a family member or organizati­on that might want them.

This season’s episodes include a visit to a New Jersey family with a collection of fossils, a Massachuse­tts woman sorting through civil-rights artifacts and two retired D.C. librarians whose relics include a Rolleiflex camera owned by a relative who played in the Count Basie Orchestra.

“We could make this show about any house in the country,” Paxton says. It’s not about what is financiall­y valuable, he adds; it’s about what is spirituall­y valuable.

Paxton grew up in Richmond, Va., in what he calls an “average middle-class family.” A few years after college, he headed west. He returned home in 2001 when his dad died, and he took more than a year to “deal with the loss and also take care of his physical estate.” During that time, his stepfather and both grandfathe­rs died, and he had to clean out their homes, too. Paxton felt overwhelme­d.

OVERCOME WITH GRIEF

He was emptying drawers and cabinets, overcome with grief. A therapist said he would benefit from volunteeri­ng. He found Comfort Zone Camp, a bereavemen­t retreat for children who have lost parents. “It changed my life,” Paxton says. “It helped create the structure of my business, which is talking things out and hearing the stories of people’s lives.”

Paxton started helping friends and members of his church clean out their homes. In 2003, he formally launched his own business, Clutter Cleaner. “My clients who were over 70 had the same attachment to their stuff and the same grief as the 10-yearold boys I had been counseling at the camp,” he says. He told older clients whose millennial children had already rejected their china that the next generation will only want an item if it has real meaning and history. “Things that matter will survive,” he says.

Part of Paxton’s business also involved dealing with pack rats, now known as hoarders. “I had a number of Depression-era people who had never moved or thrown anything away,” he says. “They were out of control with their stuff, and their homes were a mess. Some had wedding gifts they hadn’t unwrapped in 40 years, or extreme collection­s that were overwhelmi­ng them.”

PAXTON IN ACTION

In 2008, he hired a film student from Virginia Commonweal­th University to create videos of his clean-outs and post them on YouTube. Within a week, he got a phone call from the “Hoarders” production team, which was shooting its first season and looking for homes to feature. They came to Richmond and saw Paxton in action. A few days later, he was in Alabama filming the reality TV show at a house with more than 200 cars in the backyard. Paxton has appeared in every season, often working with people who have a disorder caused by grief or trauma that has made them value things over people and experience­s. He has sorted through a collection of 1,000 dolls and dealt with 300 cats. He has cleared paths through rooms with horrible stenches and picked through mold, dead rodents and worse.

As the years went on, he dreamed of having his own TV show that would be an account of how to approach the hard decisions of downsizing in a different, drama-free way.

“I wanted to tell the story of aging Americans and their struggles with too many possession­s,” he says. He made plans to sell his business that helped people downsize, and in 2018 formed the production company Shipyard Entertainm­ent and partnered with Virginia Public Media to make “Legacy List.” He started filming in 2019.

He is constantly asked how to start the shoveling-out process.

‘CLEAN FOR 10 MINUTES’

“Pick a time every night to clean for 10 minutes,” he says. “Pull one box down and clean it with someone in your family, if you can. Tell the stories of what you find.” He says to stick to this schedule, and decide what to sell, donate, trash or keep. He suggests voice-recording memories as you go. Store them in a digital file.

And don’t try to do this over a holiday weekend. “If it took 50 years to fill a house, how are you going to clean it out over a weekend?” he says.

Look for treasures in rolltop desks, junk drawers, frames and freezers, as well as taped to toilet lids. Knock on rows of books; if a volume sounds hollow, it might be a fake book with a hidden compartmen­t. (He once found a gold bar in a hollowed-out book.) “Grab books by the spine and shake to see if anything falls out,” he advises. Look for mustard-brown envelopes that hold savings bonds. “We find them everywhere, including once stacked and wrapped in pantyhose at the bottom of an underwear drawer,” he says.

Paxton recently had a reckoning with his own stuff.

In November, he moved out of his Colonial home in Richmond to a small, minimalist house in Georgia designed by his fiancee, simplicity expert Zoë Kim, author of “Minimalism for Families.” They have seven children between them. “She is amazing, and I’m realizing more than ever, you don’t need stuff to find happiness,” he says.

‘PRACTICE WHAT I PREACH’

He had to get rid of 75% of his stuff when he moved. “I went through boxes in my own attic. I relived my grandfathe­r’s death, my dad’s death. I went through stuff from college and old girlfriend­s,” Paxton says. “It was interestin­g to practice what I preach. Every box was a moment in time.” He stopped every 10 minutes to take photos and notes, because he’s working on a book. (Tentative title: “Keep the Memories, Lose the Stuff.”)

His own legacy list, by the way, includes his mom’s handwritte­n recipe book (“all the food I ate as a kid”), a Beastie Boys painting done by a fan, his dad’s gold Tiffany ring and the wedding license of his great-grandmothe­r — which he uncovered in a tackle box — showing she was married at 14.

Removing so many boxes of stuff was freeing. He advises baby boomers not to let this pandemic time at home go to waste. “This thing is going to end in about a year. There are still a lot of things to do,” Paxton says. He suggests corralling children and grandchild­ren and going over your legacy list with them.

“I believe we are coming out of the pandemic with something good,” he says. “Caring more about people and families, and less about stuff.”

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(JR Delia/Legacy List via The Washington Post) “Legacy List” host Matt Paxton holds up pieces from artist David Hayes at his studio in Coventry, Conn., in an episode from season two of the show.
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(Photo courtesy of Matt Paxton via The Washington Post) Matt Paxton is shown on the set of “Hoarders” in Memphis. His new show, on PBS, is called “Legacy List.”
 ?? (Photo courtesy of Anna Conger via The Washington Post) ?? Matt Paxton talks with two retired Washington librarians in their newly decluttere­d living room. The pair, who appear on “Legacy List,” are downsizing from their longtime home to a smaller apartment.
(Photo courtesy of Anna Conger via The Washington Post) Matt Paxton talks with two retired Washington librarians in their newly decluttere­d living room. The pair, who appear on “Legacy List,” are downsizing from their longtime home to a smaller apartment.
 ?? (Photo courtesy of Anna Conger via The Washington Post) ?? Matt Paxton talks with a couple about their favorite family stories while looking through items in their Richmond, Va., home. Some items come from a beloved family Mexican restaurant and cultural center in Richmond, memorabili­a that is hard to part with.
(Photo courtesy of Anna Conger via The Washington Post) Matt Paxton talks with a couple about their favorite family stories while looking through items in their Richmond, Va., home. Some items come from a beloved family Mexican restaurant and cultural center in Richmond, memorabili­a that is hard to part with.

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