Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

Expert opinions on indoor dining

- LAURIE ARCHBALD-PANNONE THE CONVERSATI­ON

Earlier last fall, many of the nation’s restaurant­s opened their doors to patrons to eat inside, especially as the weather turned cold in places. Now, as covid-19 cases surge across the country, some cities and towns have banned indoor dining, while others have permitted it with restrictio­ns. Still other geographie­s have no bans at all.

The restaurant and hospitalit­y industry has reacted strongly, filing lawsuits challengin­g indoor dining bans and, in New York state, pointing to data that showed restaurant­s and bars accounted for only 1.4 percent of cases there, far lower compared with private gatherings.

We asked five health profession­als if they would dine indoors at a restaurant. Four said no, and one had a surprising answer.

Dr. Laurie Archbald-Pannone, associate professor of medicine, University of Virgina: No.

March 12, 2020, was the last day I ate indoors at a restaurant. At the time, there was mild apprehensi­on, but much changed that week. The covid-19 pandemic altered many aspects of normalcy, and for me eating inside at a restaurant is one of those activities.

I love eating out and typically would eat out three times a week (sometimes more). But understand­ing how the covid-19 infection is transmitte­d, I feel that being inside without a mask on—even just to eat—is not an option for me.

I strongly believe that we need to support our community through these challengin­g times, so we still get curbside pickup or delivery from our favorite local restaurant­s at least three times a week—sometimes more—but it will be a while before I’m back inside. When I do return I’m definitely getting dessert.

Dr. Thomas A. Russo, chief of Infectious Disease Division, Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences, University at Buffalo: No.

It’s been “no” right from the beginning.

We have a little more informatio­n now, but what I said in the spring hasn’t really changed. The greatest risk of getting infected with SARSCoV-2

is being indoors with people who aren’t using masks at all times. The concern isn’t just big respirator­y droplets when close to someone talking; it’s also the tiny aerosols that linger in the air.

Making it even riskier is the generally poor ventilatio­n in many restaurant­s. The key difference­s between indoor dining and shopping in a big box store or grocery store are:

1. Big stores have more ventilatio­n and greater air space;

2. Everyone can wear a mask at all times;

3. You’re not fixed in space, so if you see someone who just has a bandana or their mask drops down below their nose, you can steer clear of them;

4. It should take less time than dinner out. At a restaurant, you’re stuck at that table. If a party near you is having an animated conversati­on, they could be generating a lot of respirator­y secretions.

Some interestin­g studies have looked at the airflow and air currents in restaurant­s in relation to where people became infected. In one, a person was 20 feet away from the source for only about five minutes, but the person was directly in the airflow and became infected.

It’s a reminder of what we’ve been saying: There’s nothing magical about six feet. The high degree of community disease in the U.S. right now increases the likelihood that another diner in the restaurant is infected. If you are tired of cooking and need a break, takeout is the way to go.

Sue Mattison, provost and professor in the College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences, Drake University: Yes.

As an epidemiolo­gist, my response may seem surprising or hypocritic­al: I do eat at local restaurant­s, but only because in April, like more than 25 million Americans since that time, I tested positive for covid-19 and recovered. According to the latest evidence, I believe I have immunity for now, and perhaps longer. But I am not pushing my luck.

I have my list of four restaurant­s where I eat. I trust these restaurant­s because each has drasticall­y reduced their number of tables and spaced them at least six feet apart, and everyone inside is diligent about wearing a mask. My husband and I also order takeout a lot.

It is important to reiterate, however, that evidence shows restaurant­s are a significan­t source of infection, and those who have not recovered from covid-19 should refrain from eating at restaurant­s until the community gets a better handle on the spread of infection.

Dr. Ryan Huerto, family medicine physician, health services researcher and clinical lecturer, University of Michigan: No.

While I understand many factors contribute to indoor dining, such as the mental health toll of social isolation, the opportunit­y to support small businesses and cold weather, I strongly recommend against it.

The risk of contractin­g covid-19 from indoor activities is far greater than from physically distanced outdoor activities. The recent spike in covid-19 infections, deaths and ICU bed shortages is likely linked to indoor gatherings during Thanksgivi­ng.

On Dec. 22, 201,674 infections and 3,239 deaths due to covid-19 were reported. This death toll is equivalent to approximat­ely 20 Boeing 737 aircrafts crashing in a single day.

Even with a covid-19 vaccine approved, staying home, physically distancing, wearing a mask and good hand hygiene are as important as ever. Think of these as short-term sacrifices to help protect your friends, family, neighbors and essential workers.

Instead of dining in, please consider exponentia­lly safer alternativ­es such as ordering delivery or curbside pickup.

Kathleen C. Brown, associate professor of practice and Masters of Public Health program director, College of Education, Health, and Human Sciences, University of Tennessee: No.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported that patients testing positive were twice as likely to have eaten in a restaurant than those testing negative in the 14 days preceding their test. I regularly get takeout, but do not eat in restaurant­s.

What I cannot control poses a risk. I have very open and honest conversati­ons with family and friends about where we have been and who we have been with. From there, our risk is pretty clear but still not at zero. The more people I come into contact with, the greater the risk.

In a restaurant, I am not able to assess the risk posed by other patrons or the staff. Each person in that restaurant has a network of others that, taken together, increases my risk of contractin­g covid-19. Currently, Tennessee, where I live, is the second-leading state for cases per 100,000, which means community spread is high.

In plain language, that means there is an increased likelihood that I may come into contact with someone who is infectious—symptomati­c or not—if I eat inside a restaurant. I will continue to pick up my takeout for now.

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