Arkansas Democrat-Gazette

Small talk actually big deal

- By Helaine Olen Helaine Olen is the author of “Pound Foolish: Exposing the Dark Side of the Personal Finance Industry.”

Ilike to talk to strangers. Or maybe I should say, I liked to talk to strangers. Given the opportunit­y, I’ll yak with people I encounter walking my dog or those sitting next to me on a plane or train. I’ve heard about financial woes and career successes, and given and received advice on child-rearing and medical care with people I’ve met once and never seen again.

But the past 18 months have not been good for people with my inclinatio­ns. Masks donned for protection make it all but impossible to share a smile with someone only momentaril­y in our orbit, which is often the signal someone is open to an approach. Social distancing hardly encourages transitory conversati­on — most people don’t, after all, shout chitchat at others waiting in line for coffee or to pay at the farmers market.

This loss isn’t specific to me, though. Transitory connection­s are good for all of us, as people and as a nation.

In-person encounters allow us to experience life from others’ perspectiv­e. As journalist Joe Keohane put it in his recent book, “The Power of Strangers: The Benefits of Connecting in a Suspicious World,” talking to strangers, even for a few seconds, makes us “better, smarter, and happier people.”

Keohane documents in painstakin­g detail how more connection­s, even brief ones, made with people we don’t really know — think postal workers and baristas — enhance our daily contentmen­t.

But these interactio­ns were declining even before the pandemic. The age of social media and inequality is not a friendly one. Consider: One study that I’ve written about found that the wealthier individual­s are, the less they looked at fellow humans they passed on the street. Another study, cited by Keohane, paired students for simulated job interviews. Turned out, the wealthier conversati­on partner was generally less socially engaged. Academics believe the more money people have, the less they believe they need other people — and, all too often, act accordingl­y.

Yet connection­s are something humans crave and whose absence we notice, even when the relationsh­ips that lapse weren’t particular­ly close. (Personally, I’ve long been convinced that the modern obsession with dogs — one I proudly share — is partly about our need for human connection and a way of obtaining it. Anyone who walks a dog regularly knows that the query “Friendly?” checks both human and canine temperamen­t.)

Social media is often portrayed as a substitute for intimate and casual companions­hip but offers no such thing — as anyone sitting in a train car amid passengers absorbed in their phones can attest. It narrows our networks to people who think like us, which ultimately can lead to extremism in diet, politics and other areas. Facebook says its goal is to “give people the power to build community and bring the world closer together,” but the platform has deepened divisions and isolation for many.

And in-person discussion has powerful abilities to bring people together. For all the reach of digital ads, many pollsters and policymake­rs still engage in “deep canvassing,” a form of political outreach in which people supporting a particular position — say, abortion or immigratio­n — knock on doors and ask voters why they believe what they do. They listen without expressing judgment, ask about times people showed or received compassion, and share their own experience­s. These conversati­ons have been shown to change minds.

In other words, it’s good for society when people talk to others who are not just like them. It can promote personal and civic welfare. It can make for more open-minded individual­s and allow us to see and better accept people who differ — in politics, class, race or otherwise. Talking to strangers, Keohane notes, “can even reduce prejudice, cool off partisansh­ip and help mend fractured societies.”

Perhaps it’s not surprising that covid-driven isolation has deepened our national divisions. These days, what once would have been considered rude behavior is encouraged in the name of self-protection. We limit our social networks and minimize talking to neighbors. It’s now acceptable to admit that our co-workers’ casual interrupti­ons interfered with our output. And what happens when our bubbles become normalized? We no longer even need to encounter the underpaid gig worker delivering dinner. Instead, they leave the order at the door and send a text announcing its arrival.

It sometimes seems that social distancing provides an excuse to avoid the sort of interperso­nal contact that many people find uncomforta­ble. But it’s worth rememberin­g that this discomfort can be key to our collective thriving.

Loneliness surged during the pandemic, and so did reports of depression. The sense of malaise, sadness and anger in some quarters, even as society lurches back, is almost certainly related, at least in part, to our continued lack of in-person connection­s. Here’s a thought: Try speaking with strangers and casual acquaintan­ces again. It can offer a quick pick-me-up in the near term — and might help reduce broader tensions.

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