Austin American-Statesman

Judge questions government lawyer on narrowing travel ban block

- By Jennifer Sinco Kelleher

A federal judge in Hawaii questioned a government attorney who urged him Wednesday to narrow his order blocking President Donald Trump’s travel ban after arguing that a freeze on the nation’s refugee program had no effect on the state.

U.S. District Judge Der- rick Watson heard arguments on whether to extend his temporary order until Hawaii’s lawsuit works its way through the courts. He made no immediate ruling.

Hawaii says the policy discrimina­tes against Muslims and hurts the state’s economy. The implied message in the revised ban is like a “neon sign flashing ‘Muslim Ban, Muslim Ban’ ” that the government didn’t bother to turn off, state Attorney General Douglas Chin told Watson.

The government says the ban falls within the president’s power to protect national security. Hawaii has only expressed generalize­d concerns about its effect on students and tourism, said Department of Justice attorney Chad Readler.

Participat­ing by telephone, Readler asked that Watson be guided by narrower rulings blocking only the part of Trump’s executive order that suspends new visas for people from six Muslim-majority countries.

Watson said the government only argued for the narrower interpreta­tion after a federal judge in Maryland blocked the six-nation travel ban but not the suspension of the refugee program. That judge said it wasn’t clear that the refugee freeze was similarly motivated by reli- gious bias.

Watson noted that the government said 20 refugees had been resettled in Hawaii since 2010.

“Is this a mathematic­al exercise that 20 isn’t enough? … What do I make of that?” the judge asked Readler.

Readler replied that 20 is simply a small number of refugees.

“In whose judgment?” Watson asked.

Constituti­onal harm exists regardless of the number of people affected or for how long, Hawaii’s attorney general said.

In his arguments, Chin quoted Trump’s comments that the revised travel ban is a “watered down” version of the original.

“We cannot fault the pres- ident for being politicall­y incorrect, but we do fault him for being constituti­onally incorrect,” Chin said.

This month Watson prevented the federal govern- ment from suspending new visas for people from Soma- lia, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Libya and Yemen and freezing the nation’s refugee program. His ruling came just hours before the federal govern- ment planned to start enforcing Trump’s executive order.

Watson, nominated to the bench by former President Barack Obama in 2012, had agreed with Hawaii that the ban would hurt the state’s tourism-dependent economy and that it discrimina­tes based on nationalit­y and religion.

Trump called Watson’s ruling an example of “unpreceden­ted judicial overreach.”

Hawaii’s ruling would not be directly affected by a decision siding with the federal government in the Maryland case, legal experts said. The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals set a hearing for May 8 to consider the administra­tion’s appeal.

“What a ruling in 4th Circuit in favor of the adminis- tration would do is create a split in authority between federal courts in different parts of the country,” said Richard Primus, a professor of constituti­onal law at the University of Michigan law school.

“Cases with splits in authority are cases the U.S. Supreme Court exists to resolve,” he said.

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