Austin American-Statesman

Getting more women into tech field is a global challenge

- Alina Tugend © 2017 New York Times News Service

European women working in the technology field are very familiar with the concerns expressed by their counterpar­ts in the United States — too few girls and young women studying science and technology in school, gender bias and sexual harassment in the workplace.

But, they say, the problems play out in different ways.

“We don’t have a fratboy culture, we have more of an old-boys culture,” said Anne-Marie Imafidon, co-founder of Stemettes, a British nonprofit aimed at encouragin­g girls to pursue science, engineerin­g, math and technology. Class difference­s, she said, play a bigger role in making outsiders feel alienated in the United Kingdom than in the United States, but “the result is the same.”

Over the past year or so in the United States, one accusation of sexual harassment and gender bias in one high-profile company has barely died down before another pops up. Susan Fowler, an Uber employee, wrote a blog post in February about harassment and retaliatio­n that landed like dynamite; after investigat­ions and more revelation­s, Uber’s chief executive, Travis Kalanick, left the company.

At Google, a software engineer was fired after writing a memo that argued that biological difference­s — such as women experienci­ng higher levels of anxiety and less tolerance for stress — explained why there were fewer women in top engineerin­g and leadership position at the company. And at the end of September, Dave McClue, the founder of the company 500 Startups, said he was stepping down after The New York Times reported he had made an advance to a woman who was applying for a job at his firm.

One of the biggest cases involved Ellen Pao, who sued her venture capital firm alleging gender discrimina­tion and lost the case in 2015. She is back in the news with a book, “Reset,” about her experience­s.

Global impact

And, of course, there is the inevitable backlash. James Altizer, 52, an engineer at the chipmaker Nvidia, declared in a recent Times article that “feminists in Silicon Valley had formed a cabal whose goal was to subjugate men.” He called the firing of some male employees in tech companies “a witch hunt,” and said there were a growing number of men across Silicon Valley and elsewhere who felt as he did.

While U.S. companies are primarily the ones in the spotlight, they have a global reach, not just because of their size, but because of the ways their actions resonate around the world. And even if gender issues elsewhere don’t make headlines, women on both sides of the Atlantic point to similar problems — although political and cultural disparitie­s create different challenges and opportunit­ies.

For example, while being a working mother, especially in high-powered technology fields, can be difficult, the paid maternity leaves and state-subsidized child care available in many European countries make life simpler.

Karoli Hindriks, 34, of Estonia, started her first company when she was 16. At 19, she spoke before the European Parliament about young entreprene­urs. And she didn’t consider herself a feminist.

“I thought, if you’re good enough, you’ll get the position,” she said. Then, she was propositio­ned by a possible investor. Writing about the episode in her blog, she described it as “the most humiliatin­g situation imaginable.” She also said that when she was applying for an accelerato­r program for the company she currently heads, Jobbatical, she was told she should leave the fact that she had a child off the applicatio­n. ( Jobbatical matches global companies and job-seekers in technology, business and creative fields.)

“I was very full of myself when younger,” she said. “It has been eye-opening.”

But one thing making her life easier is “that the state is supporting family so strongly,” Hindriks said. “We have 18 months’ paid paternity and maternity leave. Preschool costs nothing. Taking care of a child is not an issue.”

Geraldine Le Meur, 45, moved from Paris to San Francisco a decade ago to be, as she put it, “in the center of the jet engine. It was and is the place to be when you are in the digital and tech space.”

One the biggest cultural difference­s she found is how surprised people were that, as a mother of three, she opted to work full time.

“It was almost shocking to people that I continue working rather than stay at home with the boys,” said Le Meur, who started the Refiners, a San Francisco-based seed fund program to help foreign tech startups go global. “It wouldn’t be the same in France; it wouldn’t be that surprising.” And she also attributes the differing attitudes to state-subsidized day care and to an earlier starting age for school — 3 years old rather than 5 in the United States.

“You know that the people taking care of your babies while you work are profession­als,” she said. “I see friends here who have little kids who are super-conflicted. If they’re financiall­y well-off, it doesn’t seem right not to take care of the kids yourself. My kids are the best part of my life, but not the only part.”

Finding support

Shira Kaplan, 34, who moved with her husband from Israel to Zurich for his job, found that the message about combining motherhood and work was very different in Switzerlan­d than in her native Israel. She served in the elite cybersecur­ity intelligen­ce unit in the Israeli military, but when she became pregnant with her first child while working at a private Swiss bank, she said she was constantly asked: “‘Are you coming back? Are you coming back 100 percent?’ In the end, they restructur­ed my team while I was on maternity leave and it was a very strong signal.”

She then started and now runs Cyverse, a firm that brings Israeli cybersecur­ity expertise to Europe. Yet, even as the industry is increasing­ly eager to show diversity by bringing on women — “we’re the new hot thing” — she still feels different, not just about being a woman, but a young woman, she said.

Vanessa Evers, a professor of computer science at the University of Twente in the Netherland­s who was a visiting scholar at Stanford University and who worked for Boston Consulting Group in London, said the United States offers more women role models in technology and science than her country does. “In America, it is easier to find support,” said Evers, who specialize­s in human-computer interactio­ns. “I had women mentors who were willing to allow me to be there to observe and come along to important meetings. I learned so much just from being there. It’s not so common here — there’s more of a class system, a sense that ‘you don’t crash the party.’”

She feels, she said, a “basic condescens­ion” as a woman in tech. “I feel I have to convince them that I know the technology, and they’re surprised when I do.”

Evers has had her share of inappropri­ate remarks and experience­s, she said. One time, a more senior male colleague was interested in whether she shaved her armpits and pulled at her shirt to take a look.

“Two years ago, I would never have talked about it; it’s not easy to do when you’re still in the running for senior positions,” she said. But over the past few years, she has been more outspoken.

Jean Bennington Sweeney, the chief sustainabi­lity officer and vice president of social responsibi­lity for 3M, is now based in Minnesota at the company headquarte­rs. But she meets often with European counterpar­ts and used to be based in Australia and Taiwan.

“What I see in Europe and the U.S. is lots of encouragem­ent for girls in STEM. It’s not where it needs to be, but I do see more encouragem­ent in schools and even in families,” she said. Through mentoring and tutoring, she does her part to try to get more young women to enter the STEM field.

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