Baltimore Sun

GOP Sen. Johnson decries whistleblo­wer’s sources

- By Felicia Sonmez and Douglas MacMillan

Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., said Sunday that the Trump administra­tion officials who provided informatio­n to the anonymous whistleblo­wer about the president’s efforts to pressure Ukraine “exposed things that didn’t need to be exposed.”

“This would have been far better off if we would’ve just taken care of this behind the scenes,” Johnson said in an interview on NBC News’ “Meet the Press.” “We have two branches of government. Most people, most people wanted to support Ukraine. We were trying to convince President Trump.”

Johnson’s comments come days after the first public hearings in the impeachmen­t inquiry. Democrats are seeking to prove that Trump leveraged military assistance and an Oval Office meeting in exchange for investigat­ions into former Vice President Joe Biden and a debunked theory concerning purported Ukrainian interferen­ce in the 2016 presidenti­al election.

The interview also comes amid intensifyi­ng scrutiny of the actions of U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland, who is among those expected to testify publicly this week.

According to testimony released Saturday, a former White House national security official told House investigat­ors that Sondland was acting at Trump’s behest and spoke to a top Ukrainian official about exchanging military aid for political investigat­ions — two elements at the heart of the impeachmen­t inquiry.

Republican­s have struggled to defend

Trump’s actions, and Johnson on Sunday lamented the “damage that’s being done to our entire country through this entire impeachmen­t process.”

“It’s going to be very difficult for future presidents to have a candid conversati­on with a world leader, because now we’ve set the precedent of leaking transcript­s,” he said, referring to the release of rough transcript­s of Trump’s calls with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy. “The weakening of executive privilege is not good.”

Johnson also argued that the whistleblo­wer’s actions ultimately have not helped the U.S.-Ukraine relationsh­ip.

“And, by the way, those individual­s that leaked this, if their interest was a stronger relationsh­ip with the Ukraine, they didn’t accomplish this,” he said. “Having this all come out into public has weakened that relationsh­ip, has exposed things that didn’t need to be exposed.”

In recent weeks, Johnson has emerged as the member of Congress most closely involved in the Ukraine saga. The Wisconsin GOP met in July with a former Ukrainian diplomat who has circulated unproven claims that Ukrainian officials assisted Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidenti­al campaign.

Johnson and Sen. Chris Murphy, DConn., also met with Zelenskiy in September, at a time whenU.S. aid to the country was still being held up.

 ?? AMBER ARNOLD/AP ?? U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., speaks with members of the media in Madison, Wis., in October.
AMBER ARNOLD/AP U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis., speaks with members of the media in Madison, Wis., in October.

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