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Maxwell denies getting girls for Prince Andrew

Epstein ex-girlfriend calls accuser a liar in 2016 deposition

- By Jim Mustian and Larry Neumeister

NEW YORK — Jeffrey Epstein’s ex-girlfriend denied introducin­g Britain’s Prince Andrew to underage sex partners in a defensive and combative deposition made public Thursday, calling the prince’s accuser an “awful fantasist.”

“Are we tallying all the lies?” Ghislaine Maxwell asked during the 2016 deposition, saying she could not recall taking Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre out for a night of clubbing with Andrew in London. “Her tissue of lies is extremely hard to pick apart what is true and what isn’t.”

The exchange was contained in hundreds of pages of transcript­s ordered released by U.S. District Judge Loretta Preska in a civil lawsuit.

Maxwell has been charged with recruiting three underage girls in the 1990s for Epstein to sexually abuse and committing perjury in the deposition­s, though the charges don’t relate to the prince. She has pleaded not guilty.

Maxwell, 58, parried a long list of inquiries about Epstein’s sexual procliviti­es and her interactio­ns with Giuffre and other young women, insisting she never saw the financier have sex with anybody.

“She is an absolute total liar and you all know she lied on multiple things and that is just one other disgusting thing she added,” Maxwell said, denying having three-way sex with Epstein and Giuffre.

“I never saw any inappropri­ate underage activities with Jeffrey ever,” Maxwell said.

Giuffre has accused Epstein of arranging for her to have sexual encounters with numerous wealthy and influentia­l men, including Prince Andrew. He and the other men have denied her allegation­s.

Maxwell repeatedly denied hiring anyone under the age of 18 for Epstein.

As for whether she was Epstein’s girlfriend after meeting him in 1991, Maxwell called it a “tricky question.”

“There were times when I would have liked to think of myself as his girlfriend,” she said.

Asked whether it was Epstein’s “preference to start a massage with sex,” Maxwell said: “I think you should ask that question of Jeffrey.”

In a deposition of Epstein conducted later in 2016, Epstein mostly invoked the Fifth Amendment, which protects against self-incriminat­ion.

“Fifth,” he replied when he was asked if Maxwell was “one of the main women” he used to procure underage girls for sexual activities.

At one point, Maxwell was asked more than a dozen times if she believed that Epstein had abused any minors — and each time she failed to answer. At another point, she parried inquiries about a laundry basket of sex toys, telling the lawyer asking questions, “I need you to define a sex toy.”

While the deposition is rife with denials about various forms of sexual activity, Maxwell does explain that she performed several jobs for Epstein at his properties in New York and Florida. She said she was in charge of hiring his pool attendants, gardeners, chefs, butlers, housekeepe­rs and chauffeurs. All of them, she added, were “age appropri

ate adult people.”

The deposition also provided a glimpse into how Epstein financiall­y supported Maxwell over the years.

Maxwell further noted that Epstein liked to have at least one massage a day and that more than one masseuse would be on call to perform them. But she refused to answer questions about whether the word “massage” was a code word for sex, saying only that the massages involved private adult sexual relationsh­ips, according to the separate document released with her deposition.

Preska had ordered the transcript­s of seven hours of deposition­s of Maxwell re

leased by 9 a.m. Eastern Time Thursday. The judge allowed release of the transcript­s after rejecting arguments that the interviews for Giuffre’s 2015 defamation lawsuit against Maxwell would jeopardize a fair criminal trial for Maxwell next July.

Maxwell has been held without bail since her July arrest on charges that she procured the underage girls for Epstein to sexually abuse between 1994 and 1997.

The 2016 transcript­s were among over 2,000 pages of documents being released since a federal appeals court last year began unsealing documents from the since-settled Giuffre

lawsuit. She said Maxwell recruited her at age 17 to be sexually abused by Epstein and Maxwell from 1999 to 2002.

The Miami Herald, whose reporting in 2018 brought fresh scrutiny to Epstein’s crimes, had argued in seeking the unsealing that Maxwell’s fear of embarrassm­ent shouldn’t stop the public from learning of “the sexual abuse of young girls at the hands of the wealthy and powerful.”

Epstein was 66 in August 2019 when he killed himself in a federal jail in Manhattan as he awaited trial on sex traffickin­g charges.

 ?? JOHN MINCHILLO/AP ?? Ghislaine Maxwell, the ex-girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein, said in a deposition made public Thursday that she “never saw any inappropri­ate underage activities with Jeffrey ever.”
JOHN MINCHILLO/AP Ghislaine Maxwell, the ex-girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein, said in a deposition made public Thursday that she “never saw any inappropri­ate underage activities with Jeffrey ever.”

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