Chattanooga Times Free Press

Many women say Trump showed too much testostero­ne at debate

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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — Constant interrupti­on. A condescend­ing tone. Eye-rolling.

For many women, the presidenti­al debate between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump was a case study in deja vu. For more than 90 minutes on a national stage, they said Tuesday, Trump subjected the first female presidenti­al candidate from a major party to indignitie­s they experience from men daily, in the workplace and beyond.

Tweeted Chicago-based writer Britt Julious: “Thoughts & prayers to every woman watching the #debates & getting painful flashbacks to dudes talking over them at work, school, home, etc.”

“The sad thing,” said Christina Emery, an author from Swansea, Illinois, “is that I’m so used to men interrupti­ng women — especially when they want to change the subject — that I didn’t pay much attention to Trump’s behavior. I was focused on Clinton and how she handled herself.”

In the course of the debate, Trump interrupte­d Clinton 51 times, while she interrupte­d him 17 times.

Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a professor of communicat­ion who is director of the Annenberg Public Policy Center at the University of Pennsylvan­ia, said Trump’s frequent interrupti­ons of Clinton conformed with research concluding that men in group meetings interrupt women more than vice versa.

“The question for the audience — did they interpret that as an attempt of a male candidate to disadvanta­ge a female candidate,” said Jamieson. “If so, that hurts Donald Trump.”

Speaking on her campaign plane, Clinton said Trump’s “demeanor, his temperamen­t, his behavior on the stage could be seen by everybody and people could draw their own conclusion­s.”

Asked about the interrupti­ons and whether Trump might change his style in the next debate, his spokeswoma­n Hope Hicks praised his showing.

“Mr. Trump gave a stellar performanc­e and showed a comprehens­ive understand­ing of the issues voters are most interested in including trade, economic developmen­t, and job creation,” she wrote in an email.

The exchanges between the candidates underscore­d how different they are. Unlike previous presidenti­al debates, where there has been a thin veneer of respectful discourse between two men, this was a stark conversati­onal divide.

And, some said, a gender divide, one that’s all too familiar to women.

“It’s frustratin­g in women’s lives,” said Deborah Tannen, a linguistic­s professor at Georgetown University who has written several books about how conversati­on affects relationsh­ips. “And to see it up there in a dramatic way, it’s a little bit of PTSD. You’re seeing the things you suffered from. It brings it back.”

Clinton’s deportment is of a piece with her experience as a Washington insider, first lady, and former secretary of state.

But Trump, whose roots are in reality TV and the male-dominated constructi­on world, has always had an in-your-face style — and not just with women, as others pointed out on Tuesday. At debates during the Republican primaries, Trump was far from mannerly in his treatment of his opponents, male and female.

Jessica Light, a sophomore at the University of Toledo from Berea, Ohio, said Trump’s interrupti­ons didn’t bother her: “She was being harsh and he was just standing up for himself,” she said.

Others found his behavior at the debate to be unnerving.

“Many women watching Trump’s treatment of Clinton feel a sickening sense of familiarit­y with patronizin­g behavior directed at them during every work day,” said Dr. Janet Scarboroug­h Civitelli, a vocational psychologi­st in Austin, Texas.

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